Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

If Ineos are still working off that Glazer/Woodward philosophy, we might as well give up now.

I'd prefer MDL over Yoro.
Yoro is potentially an elite defender. Potentially the best CB of his generation - but he isn;t that now. He would be good now, but not great (imo). Him and Martinez as first choices is maybe an issue. I think MDL is more NOW ready.

If you sign Yoro, it is with the plan that United will be competing for a title in 3/4 years - and that a 22yo Yoro will (hopefully) be elite and a key part of that team. And my fear is that by teh time United are rady to complete, and he is rady to be akey part of it, he will be wanted by Madrid, and he will push for that move then.

If it was Brantwaite i would be more for it, because I would have faith he'd be here long term. But Yoro? he'd be gone before his first contract was up (imo).

THere is also the arguement that for where United are now, looking at younger players that could either be part of a key team or be sold at a massive profit, is right. Maybe Yoro gets us closer to competing, then selling him provides a hige cash boost and that boost pushes us further (ie. Coutinho for eg)

I think MDL would be much better than Yoro this season, and (assuming he works out) I think you get 5/6 years out of him easily, without the worry of him demanding a move (imo).

If we signed MDL and Yoro, great. (forgeetting about costs for the moment), but as it is I don't think we are ready for a Yoro signing, when he would be costing so much. If Varane had stayed, I would be more up on Yoro, but as it is we need to sign a first choice defender and i don't think Yoro is the right pick for that (assuming we only buy 1 cb)

Wow.

Surprising. Still lets see how it works out.

It not a move i'll criticise INEOS for. Its a gamble, but ok.

Branthwaite is going to cost £100million or more. Everton have no reason to sell hence why United said no and moved onto other targets. It's smart business.

We're a million miles away from Woodward, etc of years gone by. We'd have spent all Summer on Branthwaite to sign him for £100million and get no one else.

Yoro is hugely thought of and I'd assume we're going after him due to Ashworth and team wanting him, not because Real Madrid want him as a poster said above.

We can be sceptical of United due to previous transfer windows but we have football people in charge of the football side of things. These lads know what they're doing. We may not see immediate success and they'll get some things wrong but I'm fully on board of trusting the process, and I hate that cliche.

I believe his wages are in the 100k range. The 55k value is, i believe, the net value of his contract. Euro reports will generally talk about wages in terms of take home pay, we always talk gross pay.

True but in the same respect, I agree with the poster that in the Woodward era, Zirkzee would have been getting double that ie £100k net.

The reports say that they want a left footed CB to come in alongside Yoro or de Ligt so I don’t think it’s going to be both. Now maybe they change tack because Branthwaite is unattainable and there is no other left footed (or someone very comfortable on the left side) CB on their list, I guess they could sign both in that scenario.

5 year deal plus the option of 1 year is what is being reported so at least the resale value is secured if it comes to that down the line.

From the Ornstein piece "The Premier League team maintain their admiration for options such as Matthijs de Ligt of Bayern Munich and Everton’s Jarrad Branthwaite, although a further arrival is likely to depend on departures to create finance and squad space.".

I'd assume we'd be looking for suitors for Lindelof or possibly Maguire now. The 10m we got for Kwambala essentially covers the Yorro fee, it was pure profit as he was an academy player.

I seen we were linked to Hancko at Feyenoord who is left footed but looks like he's off to Atletico Madrid.

I think we need to sell Maguire or Lindelof, and get inanother CB. Maguire out and MDL in would be sensible, imo.

I suppose my question was more focused on the playing time of the second CB signing, rather than the finances.

Assuming we could offload Maguire or Lindelof... are MDL or Branthwaite really signing if they are seen as backup to Martinez and Yoro?

I could certainly see MDL's interest cooling in the deal. I mean, he's wanting to leave Bayern to get away from the same situation he would be entering... I'm not sure Branthwaite would want doubts over his playing time either, at this important stage of his career.

Playing time isn't guaranteed I know, and Yoro is very young, but the next CB will be seen as a backup imo. And I'm not sure either will want that.