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  • #1262
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I see Leonardo have the 1st of the bristow aw189s flying in Italy a little over 12 months after the order was confirmed. Maybe there is a chance our new air force will have a new fleet of super mediums before 2028.



  • #1263
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So Lebanon is heating up, with some nations already recommending their people leave, how many Irish nationals are there outside the Troops? How late we we leave it to think about what might need to be done and which nation are we going to bum lifts off of this time?

    And of course what excuse are we going to get as to how we couldn't possibly have more than a 295 in a couple of years for such situations?



  • #1264
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122300262#Comment_122300262

    I am sure Israel would love to help us out!



  • #1265
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    The Department is getting worried, hope they have started a ring around:

    https://x.com/dfatirl/status/1806287310482211045



  • #1266
    mupper2
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭mupper2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122310537#Comment_122310537

    They've already started https://x.com/ConorHogarty/status/1806331124471267797



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  • #1267
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    The auld begging bowl 🥣 is out again!



  • #1268
    davetherave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭davetherave


    Casa did a run down to Malta on Thursday, then carried on to Cyprus and back to Malta yesterday, and back to Baldonell today. It would be nice if we had something that could get to Cyprus in the one leg…

    Picking up or dropping off? 🤔

    https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=4ca41f&lat=41.193&lon=11.545&zoom=4.3&showTrace=2024-06-29&trackLabels



  • #1269
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,335 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Aid for Gaza.

    Cyprus is the marshaling point for all shipments into Palestine.



  • #1270
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,335 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I don't think anyone is flying in there at all. Emergency drops are inherently dangerous, so almost all aid is transhipping by sea via the US military pier on Gaza and on to trucks and marshalling yards.



  • #1271
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122327753#Comment_122327753

    The Pier has broken up multiple times and I think subject to several attempts to defund it in Washington, and even then has been marginal at best and nothing close to crossing points, and Air drops have continued.



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  • #1272
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,335 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I see the Tánaiste has revealed a plan to evacuate the Irish UNIFIL battalion to Cyprus, in the event of a significant escalation in conflict between Hezbollah and the IDF. A skeleton presence would be maintained.

    So presumably we're talking about cadging a lift from the RAF as far as Akrotiri. There are more than a few UN backed multinational operations in Cyprus to either accommodate the unit or put them to work, pending an improvement on the ground in south Lebanon.



  • #1273
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122332446#Comment_122332446

    well it would be one way to kickstart the MOWAG replacement project…



  • #1274
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    There is over 10k Unifil troops and police there i would imagine it will be an orderly withdrawel if it happens with all unifil nations working together.



  • #1275
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122332557#Comment_122332557

    If a full scale conflict breaks out and with the state Lebanon is in at this point anyway… I wouldn't be eager to put money on that.



  • #1276
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122332723#Comment_122332723

    If full scale breaks out i wonder what the plan will be to get the 10k troops out. You would think that israel would take all the airstrips out so would we see them heading for cyprus via sea?

    The poor Mowags they only finished the midlife upgrade!



  • #1277
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,335 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You'll have to ask the Tánaiste about that one.

    Presumably the skeleton crew left behind will be purely to maintain lockdown and security on the main base of operations. If it comes to it.



  • #1278
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    It's rumoured that Embraer will be bringing a KC-390 demonstrator to Ireland after this month's Farnborough Air Show.



  • #1279
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Hope we buy one. The third 295 is not up to heavy lifting. It's just a small regional passenger airliner painted to look military.…



  • #1280
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122367589#Comment_122367589

    are they getting some duty free shopping in?



  • #1281
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122367877#Comment_122367877

    Didn’t we use one of the Finnish ones to fly into Afghanistan?



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  • #1282
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭sparky42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122369032#Comment_122369032

    if the NGOs are t paying for it, then they don’t get a say on its usage or colours or anything else, but yeah hasn’t that been floated since the 00s with a purchase of a herc but never gone anywhere?



  • #1283
    source
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,287 ✭✭✭source


    It's a moot point anyway, with the exception of the emergency and the heritage colour on the one PC12 we don't do camo on aircraft.



  • #1284
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,335 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Said it before, will say it again:

    Brazil is in a diplomatic and trade partnership, ie BRICS, whose interests are counter to those of the European Union and NATO.

    Ireland should not be investing money with Brazil, and especially not to buy military equipment from them. Yes, I'm well aware other EU/NATO members have procured the 390, but in my opinion they shouldn't have done.

    An Airbus A400 is similarly capable and similarly priced. The money, if it is to be spent, should be invested in Europe, with a European maker.

    But we all know its unlikely to be in any event.



  • #1285
    zone 1
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭zone 1


    ireland has more chance of getting fighter jets than 390 or A400



  • #1286
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    I don't really think the Dutch could build the 390. I mean Fokker went out of building planes decades ago.....so where would a suitable factory and workforce exist?



  • #1287
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374698#Comment_122374698

    It actually would not be that hard to set up a production line. The Dutch universitys still produce very good Aerospace engineers.

    These days these plants are more like giant Ikea assembly plants as parts come from all over the world.

    The biggest issue would be how would Airbus view an assembly plant in the EU.



  • #1288
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    True about the technical university of Delft....graduate engineers…but what about nuts and bolts production line fitters?



  • #1289
    thomil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭thomil


    I don’t see an issue. Fokker Technologies, which produces numerous types of aircraft components, is still around, though it is currently owned by GKN Aerospace. The biggest issue I see is space, and more importantly airspace capacity. The space issue stems from the fact that the former Fokker factory is now a business park without any real airfield access, though I do believe that this could be rectified pretty quickly if needed.

    The bigger issue is the airport at which this factory/business park is located. That’s Amsterdam Schiphol, one of Europe’s busiest airports and one that is at, or beyond, capacity anytime the wind does not allow operations from the three north/south runways. You can see the old factory on Google Maps just to the right of Runway 36R or immediately south of Runway 04. This would mean a new greenfield site, ideally at an airport that has enough space around it to take the needed infrastructure.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • #1290
    vswr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭vswr


    Grand oul jolly for the IAC if the 390 turns up



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  • #1291
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122376148#Comment_122376148

    There was one here in 2017 - I think they got a look at it that time.

    PTZNJ240617-2FJG.jpg



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