Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Everything was fine until things changed. And it became obvious Biden has changed. Yes, there were indications he was struggling but now they are obvious.

Why is it hard for people here to realise this? Facts change, opinions change.

Not much evidence that the people are loving Biden either when I look at the swing state polling and approval ratings. Harris isn't perfect but at the very least she ends the age/mental fitness attack that is killing Biden atm.

Heck she can ever flip it on Trump because unlike Biden she doesn't need to be managed and can consistently be out in public hammering Trump non stop.

In my mind Harris is probably our best bet at the moment.

Of course I would prefer someone else but there doesnt appear to be anyone else standing up so it has to be Harris at the moment.

At least with Harris she's cognitive and doesnt have baggage unlike Trump.

There's no doubt in my mind Biden is going to lose but at least with Harris there's a chance. You put her in a debate with Trump and she'll destroy him because Trump has far to many easy targets on his back.

I'm sure it must be hurting Joe that everyone is talking about his cognitive issues, it's not nice talking about mental health issues and knowing time is catching up but it takes a brave man to step down knowing there's higher stakes and knowing you just cannot go on being the same man you were 4 years ago

You have to think of the greater good when you factor the devil is knocking on the door of the White House again and this time he'll be prepared….

I don't think it's ego. Regardless of what happens (stays on, steps down) for optics he must treat it as if he's 100% committed until the moment he has to step down (or stay on and face Trump).

I was thinking about this last night, forgive the sporting analogy, but no matter what team sport football, rugby, hurling, if its late in the game and you, the manager, are thinking of replacing your captain, then you would have your next best player off the bench and warming up on the sidelines.

The Dems have no-one warming up. So calls for Biden to step down is disingenuous. I am sure Biden would have happily passed the torch by now if there was someone suitable, but the truth is, there's no-one.

While Harris is the obvious one, the reality is that she is unpopular. Unfortunately in some states, being black and a woman is too much of a leap for some voters who would probably go with old, batshit crazy white guy instead.

I'd have an opposite opinion.

The media frenzy about this is intense and will be extremely damaging for Biden's campaign. Theytried to end the frenzy with the defiant 'I'm still running and that's that' message but it didn't stop the media focus, and I don't think they'll ever stop it. As long as Biden is the candidate it'll drag on all the way to election. At this point, considering all the media coverage and the open Democratic turmoil, I think Biden being the Democratic nominee more or less guarantees a loss. He simply will not energise the Democrat-leaning or independent votes enough to capture swing states.

So who else can step up? Just as one example, Josh Shapiro - certainly something of an unknown, but he wouldn't be by election time, and would help with Pennsylvania. He's a centrist, but that might help to court independents.

This is going to be a Keep Trump Out election, just like the last one. Give the Democrats somebody to rally round, and give the Anybody but Trump voter somebody palatable to vote for, and you have, in my opinion, a far better chance than a Biden ticket.

More than anything, do it quickly, and get the negative press in the rear view mirror, and give the new candidate time to campaign.

Re: Buttigieg, if America isn't ready for a black, female President, they sure as shit aren't ready for a gay one.

But he's gay.

Well thats that then.

I'm curious, what is QANON music?

That well known politico George Clooney.

I nearly want Biden to turn to someone on camera and say, "If I did step aside, who would take my place?".

And answer came there none.

Clooney is apparently an influential voice within the democratic party and a large fundraiser for them.

Pelosi's comments along with reported comments from Schumer are doing more damage though.

What is starting out like a trickle, is going to turn into a tidal wave of urges and comments about Biden stepping down.

But you are right, who is going to take his place. The obvious one is Harris, but even a lot of Democrats are lukewarm on the idea as she polls not much better than Biden. Can she win a national vote? I dont think so.

This is a problem of of the Democrats own making to be honest.

Kamala Harris isn't liked because she is a thoroughly unlikable character. It's got very little to do with her race or gender. I think Trump would beat her well in a debate . To be honest I can't see her stepping up. She's got a huge ego but she's not completely silly.

No I think Biden will trudge on and Trump will beat him well in November . If Biden did have some humility and step down then the repercussions in the democratic party would be huge. The Democrats are like the left...they turn on each other given a half a chance. The likes of Ortiz and the far left squad would look to unsurp the centrists. It would be a disaster but then it's going to ve a disaster anyway. Personally I think Trump is the best option. Putin wouldn't be in Ukraine if Trump was in the top job. Anda word on NATO. The US wants Germany to pull up its socks. It's military us a joke..badly led and WOKE. The only thing between the Ukraine and Paris if Russia were to over run Ukraine would be Poland. People underestimate the Russian capability. They've a serious military machine up and running . If heaven forbid the Ukrainians collapse then why would the Russian armies keep rolling.. NATO as it stands wouldn't save the Baltics and probably not Poland

I think Trump would beat her well in a debate

I assumed this was a serious comment and I was going to respond until I saw this:

Personally I think Trump is the best option

I'm not going to bother rebutting that.

Hard to think one short post can have so much wrong in it.

I have intentionally stayed out of most of these threads for months as they tend to get so toxic and that's not a rabbit-hole I want to go down again.

but yeah, this is a pretty benign question alright. Yeah, as posted later, Harris is not very well liked and I agree, I don't believe it's anything to do with her gender or race. She's abrasive without charm and, for all the spotlight on her, she really didn't shine as much as they hoped.

I reckon they'll bring bring in George Clooney and Michelle Obama as a Hail Mary pass 😁.

They have really handed this over to Trump at this stage. They should have been bigging up their Next Big Thing last year when they realised that Harris was simply not cutting it as a replacement.

Pretty depressing really. They should have been parading their Next Big Thing with smiles and unanimous praise as the GOP was eating itself alive. Oh well