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Starlink - Anyone get it yet?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Thx... starlink and sky glass have both arrived... I'll be setting up on the weekend. Hopefully all will work seamlessly!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭micks_address




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I have had Sky Q for years (and years) and had zero issues with it since I moved to Starlink last year, but I'm contemplating a move to sky glass as the Sky dish is near its end of days. Let us know how the new setup goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Stewball


    How does SkyQ and Starlink perform together? Mainly the multiscreen.

    I'm still using the old Sky+HD boxes. I never upgraded because of the poor internet service in my area.

    If Starlink was down would Sky also not work then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    SkyQ and Starlink work great for me where I have a "main" Sky Q box and two mini boxes (multiscreen). My Starlink router is with the rest of the hardware (dish etc.) out in my garage and it connects then via an ethernet cable to a tp-link switch in the house and the Sky Q box is connected via ethernet directly to this too.

    I then have a Deco Mesh system around the house where each multiscreen mini box is connected via an ethernet cable to an M5 mesh access point (I have turned off wireless access in the Sky boxes so that there is only one WIFI network in the house). The whole system is self contained allocating local IP addresses from the Deco to allow the Sky boxes to communicate with each other.

    AFAIK Sky will work without the internet, but since installation of Starlink 15 months ago, I don't think it has ever had to because the only time time Starlink goes down is around 3am when router / dish firmware upgrades get installed and it all reboots automatically. Before I installed Starlink I ran it all off a Three 4G router in the same configuration.

    The reason I'm considering Sky Stream is because the system "just works" and my existing Sky dish is nearing EOL.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭pms7


    I have a similar setup done in a house. However the sky mini buffers sometimes. Main Sky box wired to mesh which is wired to main mesh. Mini wired to mesh which is wireless and has full reception. It all seems fine when I am there. All sky WiFi turned off.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    On my own mesh I can check each deco unit to see if it's connecting via 2.4GHz or 5GHz. If it's at 2.4 it's a sign (to me anyway) that it's not getting a strong signal. I have then moved the mesh units slightly, let them settle for a few hours and then check again. If you are getting intermittent buffering, to me it's a sign of the signal strength of the mesh not being strong enough or periodic interference from another device?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭pms7


    Yes, using Tenda, that feature not there. However showing full signal and single block wall in between. From using these before and the speed available from it, connection isn't an issue. I suppose I should run a cable to it temporarily to see if that solves it. Was also thinging of going back to the wifi setup Sky had working, which was fine all along, except when I added the mesh, the sky wifi seemed to cause bad interference with the mesh even causing packet loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Well... I'm no techie, but this was absolutely child's play.

    Starlink was up and running in about 10 minutes.

    Getting 170mb down and 28mb up. North West rural mayo.

    Couldn't believe how simple it was.

    Now... that being said, it's not in its permanent home as I need to physically install it in a better location and drill a hole in the wall to feed the cable in to the house And do some cable management etc. It's really awesomely cool when you switch it on and it searches for the best satellite signal... the "dish" rotates and pivots automatically - quite quickly.. like something from a terminator movie. LOL

    Got the sky glass unpacked and put it on its stand. Turned it on, connected it to my new WiFi signal, confirmed the last 4 digits of my phone number and started watching TV.... it was THAT simple. I was shocked it didn't ask for an email address or account number etc... really really slick. It really is a great invention ... no sky boxes/ mini boxes blah blah. Just a power cord running from the TV to the socket. :-) very tidy.

    65 inch sky glass TV- Image quality is perfect, no noticeable lag while watching TV. If I was being absolutely cynical channel up / down is marginally slower than a standard sky box, but honestly it isn't an issue.

    Need to get a proper wall mount for the TV though.

    Happy days! Feel free to PM if any questions.

    Muppet man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Matchu7


    Hi folks,

    Quick couple of questions…..

    Anyone have this in or around Carrick-On- Shannon/Roosky area ? How is it?

    Can someone recommend an installer for this area?

    We are currently using IMAGINE….who have got worse and worse over the last few years….and NBI is 18-24 months away…

    Many thanks!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Starlink isn't like Imagine or Mobile … if you have a clear view of the sky from where your dish would be placed, it will just work. There are many Ex-Imagine people using it very happily.

    Get the Starlink app on your smartphone, get as close as you can with the device, to where the dish will be placed and use the "Check for obstructions" feature. This should tell you what you need to know.

    My dish is on a flat roof, so I lay down on the flat roof with the phone in front of my face and scanned the sky with the app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭pms7


    Hi all, like most installers, looking at the new Gen3, it seems like an improvement especially with the router. However the pole mount design leaves a lot to be desired. Very little contact with the pole and could easily see it work itself loose over time.
    I am involved with a UK group of installers and one of them has come up with a far superior design with plenty of contact with the pole. I am using these myself and also have them for sale if anyone wants them.


    Cost for 1 is €70,

    box of 5 is €275, including postage.

    To order go to
    https://forms.mount


    Any queries 0863788715
    I am based in mid Cork and do Starlink installs, WiFi mesh, WiFi point to point and calving cameras.

    Patrick

    Video of mount

    leevalleybroadbandsolutions.ie

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Apologies if these questions have been asked already. I'm thinking of getting the starlink system. I have 3 with a signal booster, it was great to start with, however the signal has became unreliable. As low as 1mbps.Fibre not an option til at least 2026. I'm based in Mayo.

    I have the deco M4 mesh system.in the house aswell.

    What are the pros and cons to the system?.
    What is the best system to get, refurbished, standard actuator or the standard?
    What is the difference betwee these systems?
    Do I need any add ons. Ie Ethernet adapter?

    Is it one year contract or is it flexible?

    Any information is welcome. Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    What are the pros and cons to the system?

    Coming from a Mobile connection, there would be no cons.

    What is the best system to get, refurbished, standard actuator or the standard?

    Some people have had good experience with refurbed gear. I'd bought mine waaaay before that was an option. 🙄

    What is the difference betwee these systems?

    I didn't know what you were talking about with respect to Standard and Standard Actuator, so I looked. The standard is just a flat panel that has a "kickstand" to angle it slightly. The previous Gen 1 and Gen 2 were all, what is now called, "Standard Actuator" in that the dish/panel can automatically adjust the angle and direction it points in order to get a good signal. Perhaps there are now enough sats flying over us that the actuator is no longer needed.

    Do I need any add ons. Ie Ethernet adapter?

    If you want to connect any wired tech, then yes the Ethernet adapter is required. If you are purely Wireless then you don't need it. I can't comment on how good the new routers are for WiFi, as I have Gen 1 and it's wired to my own WiFi.

    EDIT: just realised you have a Mesh system. Presumably that is initially connected by an Ethernet cable, so get the adapter.

    Is it one year contract or is it flexible?

    Completely flexible, with no limits. Just pay by the month, cancel/suspend anytime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Thanks ao much for your reply.

    I'd imagine I would have to mount it on a pole to get over the roof to get the best signal. Does the weather the affect the signal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Weather hadn't made much difference to our signal. You don't need height we the dish, it just needs to be able to see the sky. You can use the starlink app on you phone to check for obstacles.. it uses the phone on your camera and hold it where you are thinking of putting the dish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    I already checked it is pretty good. I have a mast on house for my phone coverage so I was thinking if I got the pole adapter to raise it over the roof slighty it shoul be perfect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Thanks for the help.

    Just another question. Do all the dishes rotate? Or is that a certain generation.

    If they all do, the refurbished system sounds great value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


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    I would hope the pole adapter would work with this setup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭micks_address


    I don't think gen 3 is motorised.. it really doesn't seem to make much difference. I've gen 2 and once setup hadn't moved much at all I think the bottom of it is due south and the dish is almost flat..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Do you need the Ethernet adapter with gen 3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Not sure .. have a Google/YouTube.. you do with gen 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Stewball


    It will. I have pretty much the exact same set up as your picture.

    The pole adapter connects to the pole and the dish clicks into the pole adapter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Brilliant. Thanks for that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    @popeye mchuge Does the weather the affect the signal?

    Nearly 20 years ago I had an old fashioned geo-synch satellite service. A heavy mist was all it took to slow things down and a heavy rain shower would drop the connection. I had a lot of disconnections those days.

    With Starlink, as the satellites are much, much closer to the ground, the only weather effect I noticed about 2 years ago was signal loss after a particularly intense hail shower, but that didn't last long as the dish heats up to melt any "snow" that would block the signal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 popeye mchuge


    Super I just want a good understanding before I push the button to purchase. Much better to ask people's experience than watching YouTube.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mossie


    Does anyone who rents the equipment know what the procedure is for returning it once you cancel? Got fiber installed yesterday so cancelling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,221 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Let us know ;-) All I know is I kept the box so I can pack mine up easily. Beyond that not a clue.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mossie




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭mossie


    I got an email with a DHL return label, to be sent back within 30 days of cessation of service. Service remains active for me until the end of July so have until the end of August to return it.

    I have an ethernet adapter available if anybody wants it for cost of postage. PM me if interested.

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