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BRITISH GENERAL ELECTION - 4TH JULY

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 994 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    You forgot to add 'deplorables' to your list of tropes there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭Rawr


    So we’ve gone from far-right posters complaining about broadcasters pointing out the plain bloody obvious about the nature of their beloved clatch of Union-Jack botherers, to them now calling the nature of a well known voting demographic; «tropes»

    Now, I know the truth isn’t really the far-right’s best friend at the best of times and in recent years anything approaching the truth seems to trigger some kind of allergic reaction, but I’d like to think that maybe they could start to actually discuss things like policy and make their case instead of clutching pearls of fake outrage when people don’t agree with them. Might actually trigger debate, instead of reinforcing the impression that the likes of ReformUK are both block-headed and dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Why are you so intent on defending horrible bigots? Galloway doesn't represent anybody. He won a by-election because the Labour candidate was withdrawn.

    Reform UK doesn't exist for policy. It exists to do the bidding of dodgy financiers like Arron Banks. It masquerades as a party (It's a company in which Nigel Farage is the majority shareholder) and the only other thing real about it is the racism.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It's always the ones that rail against "cancel culture" that want people sacked for pranks, isn't it?

    Imagine if he had just jokingly said, "And I love you too, Vlad", while his staff dealt with it.

    But the one thing that all right wingers have in common is the hatred they fester and store inside them costs them any sense of humour they once had. It's why there's no funny right wing shows or comedians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,521 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭Rawr


    For crying out load. I suggest policy debate and instead we get a video dump from yet another pro-Russia tankie. What’s more a pro-Russia tankie who’s begging Farage for an extremist love-in…or “hustings” as he’d like to pretend to call it.

    I’d like to take this opportunity to remind far-rightists here, that the far left are just as bad. Most of the rest of us live in the center grounds of politics where discussion, compromise and agreement are possible. There’s not just a binary black & while, left & white divide in politics. Within that division you also have a horseshoe curve where the centre advocates choice & reconciliation, while the extreme ends champion totalitarianism and no quarter given.

    Farage & Galloway represent both ends of this extremist horseshoe, and this might be why they find themselves to be darlings of the likes of the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    BBC journalism tanked after Hutton and they now have difficulty being factual never mind impartial. TVLA now account for 80% of my junk mail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    The last two days the BBC have been heavily promoting stories of Reform candidates defecting to the Tories because of racism in the former. It must be really bad if the Tories are seen as a less racist option.

    I'm quite happy to see those two tearing into each other.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,839 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Seems to be a bit more of Tories being challenged the wee last while thankfully (hey better late than never)

    Maria Caulfield (Tory health minister...well until Thursday) spouting nonsense that Keir Starmer will only be doing a 4 day week...Matt Barbet on sky having none of it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,426 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Any punts at a guess on the number of seats the Tories win? I'm gonna say 137, based on not much at all.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I would say around 110. for also no particular reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Go with 118 seats. For no sensible reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,427 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    75. Wildly optimistic for tactical voting to have mullered them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Jaysus Sky are milking the exit poll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,427 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That's a horrendously high number for the Tories after the last 14 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Well done. If the exit polls hold up correctly, you were very close.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,426 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i wonder how much an amplifying effect FPTP will have on the sense of doom. at least with PRSTV you can go out and vote for a doomed candidate but have a sense that at least you can vote for them but your vote is not wasted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,414 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    13 Reform 61 Lib Dems



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    SNP 10 seats? Total meltdown if that's true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    And they shall continue to for the next 4 hours until we get some actual results.

    PS, I very much doubt those results will replicate enough for Reform to get 13.

    4 perhaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


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    Infographic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    So Labour at lower end of projections and Tory at upper end.

    As Gibbons just said on C4, Labour amazing result but will be spun as under performance.

    Tory will claim that they did better than anticipated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,414 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Tories was treating them with contempt.

    The last 2 guys in SKY going this is not a Labour win but a Tory disaster Jesus some are trying to want to make it better for them. Wonder when someone will blame the public. Wonder how Sunak and Moog did. No one wants to give Labour the credit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭liamtech


    havent heard anything about Northern Ireland yet - some interesting results no doubt - delighted the tories were hammered - good riddance

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Why? If anything it would be more I would have thought or fairly accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    Yeah, I am missing something here? I heard Philip Hayes on RTE nearly having an orgasum about the labour "landslide", 95 seats in a FPTP system is nothing special.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,406 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Reform will be happy if they end up with 13 seats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Two positives for Ireland straight off the bat - Tories annihilated and UK going left.



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