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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    Yeah, bad pass. However, his/her line did change: was a couple of feet over the centre line, then merged back into the left lane after the pass. But yeah, I wouldn't be happy about that pass. If the jeep's speed was not much faster than the bike's then it wouldn't feel as scary, but when it's going so much faster, like in this case, then it can be a shock.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Agree.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭cletus


    I had a similar sort of interaction about a fortnight ago. Wasn't sure whether to post it or not.

    Myself and my wife were out for a very leisurely spin on the canal Greenway. There was a group of about 4 or 5 women, and at least one buggy strung out across the path. We slowed down to almost a full stop, very politely said "sorry folks, just on your left".

    After a bit of shuffling they all moved to the right, and as we (very slowly) passed them, saying thanks, one lady said "no bell on that bike, and no bell on that bike".

    I was a little irked, so I stopped and said "sorry?" She reiterated that we had no bells. I said that's why we slowed, said sorry folks, passed then said thank you. She just kept saying you should have a bell, it's common courtesy. I asked if she thought we hadn't courteous, and she just kept repeating you should have a bell. I just said thanks and went on my way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Absolutely, just chalk it down to meeting a true Karen and forget about it.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Just out of court in Blanch for this. The driver disputed the charge (one of the excuses was that a 24/7 bus lane on a national road doesn't apply on a Sunday).

    The barrister tried to make an issue that I didn’t wobble or have to stop immediately. I explained that the camera software does a form of wobble correction and that I stopped to save the footage - it's just not in the short clip.

    He was done for Driving without reasonable consideration (section 51A), fined €500 but no disqualification - not the perfect result but a good one nonetheless.

    To his credit, the garda was great 👍

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Out of curiosity (and in no way am I implying you should use it), did anyone mention the cycle lane?

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    There was no mention of it in the court.
    When his barrister questioned the garda whether the bus lane was in operation on a Sunday on a national route, he said it was. When I was asked to describe the event, I mentioned how I was travelling westbound along the N4 in the well signposted 24/7 bus & cycle lane so maybe I nipped his cycle-lane crap in the bud (but to be fair had he pushed it, I was ready to ask him of his knowledge of the RUS 028 and RUS 029 signs from the Government's Traffic Signs manual).

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Nah but I had kind of expected them to ask why I wasn't in the crappy cycle lane and I was already familiar with the signs. When the garda told me before we went in that the driver was contesting the validity of the bus lane, I knew I was prepared.
    I had the whole scenario rehearsed in my head like a Hollywood courtroom scene but the prick never put it to me 🤬

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    always better to be (over) prepared and not need it , than the other way round. Can seem a bit anticlimactic that way…

    Glad you got some satisfaction SB … always a shame when its up to you to chase these things and make it happen.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    Yeah they're at fault, but you could have gone on the outside of the (stupid, bollarded) bike lane, and had an easier life. That's what I would have done anyway. In fact, even if they weren't there crossing, I'd have avoided that cycle lane. That's just me though: pathological hatred for them.

    What I do nowadays is just cycle around dicks 9/10 times, without complaining or making a big deal of it all, just to have a less stressful and easier life: basically ride pure defensively.

    Edit: I'm not insinuating that you made a big deal out of it: I don't know, either way.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Proceeding way too fast down that hill considering the hazards ahead.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Jees, let that be a lesson to you @TheHouseIRL, don't cycle in excess of 10km/h in case of obstacles and don't post footage of said cycle as your actions will be picked apart.

    What about the parallel pedestrian crossing at the base of the hill, no one going to mention that? That's supposed to guide pedestrians and their safe crossing of the junction. Lights had turned green for road traffic well in advance of the mad cyclist approaching so pedestrians were effectively jaywalking but that means nothing in Ireland so pedestrians can cross with impunity even when unsafe to do so.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    Looks to me like the cyclist just rode into her on purpose. Looks like he had lots of time to come to a stop.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Could be one of those coke zero bikes with the terrible brakes as well.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What I'd like to see (and I couldn't get the clarity on my laptop) is whether she even glanced to her left at all or just ploughed up on to the road

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    We have no definitive read on how far away he was. However, this goes back to my first point - if these were two cars, the blame would firmly be place on the car that pulled out without looking.

    Of course she's to blame, but I'm merely pointing out my perception that it looks like he could have stopped: he's going uphill, not too fast, and from the time the bonnet of the car comes into his view, and he sees that the car doesn't appear to slow down for the cycle lane, it seems to me that he could have stopped before hitting her car. Perhaps I'm wrong, I could be, but perhaps I'm not and he rolled into her door slowly with the similar intention of a punishment pass, although that part is speculation on my part of course. However, I suspect he could have stopped before colliding with her car.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,224 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Just in case anyone here was rhe victim of a hit & run today in Dublin...

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I'd really appreciate it if motorists didn't try hit me and my kid

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    Have heard a passive-aggressive response would be to open the back door of the offending car and cycle away, leaving the driver to have to get out & close it before continuing. I havnt been brave enough to try but have been sorely tempted …. On a couple of occasions (when cars pull out & stop or else cut in front) I will rap on the roof just to wake them up and hopefully show how close they were ….. have been surprised that I got NO response from this, not even mild shock at the unusual noise. Maybe thats just Birmingham drivers!

    I do think that more and more people (ped , cyclist & drivers) are in their own world with headphones / podcasts / phones / radios distracting them …. I love my earbuds and a good podcast or audio book does help the time go by on my commute, so I know I am distracted from time to time and I am one who makes an effort …. so I am not pure myself.

    On the "how could they not see me?" thoughts all cyclists have, I think the answer is "because they didnt look for you" … no matter what lights / jackets you have , no matter what size you are or your position in the road, some drivers wont see you because they are not looking for a bike (I think motorcyclists will say the same).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I meant that they will take liberties and not offer an ounce of apology.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I find drivers much more careful around cargo bikes, as long as they can tell that's what it is.

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Would mostly tend to agree, they are scared it'll damage their car

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    You've just discribed putting kids into a car on Irish roads these days, you are gambling that you won't be hit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Reported similar to traffic watch a couple of weeks ago. Overtake on the Porterstown Road, D15 near enough Castleknock Hotel where there's a straight stretch of road. Car behind overtook fully into the oncoming lane (I take primary along that road) but neglected to see the oncoming car which had to perform an emergency brake and stuck it to the road. Overtaking car didn't so much as slow down and pulled in on top of me barely avoiding both me and the oncoming car, as close as I've seen to a head on collision and have seen some stupid overtakes on blind bends and hills on that section of road for the sake of a few seconds. Got the reg but coincidentally caught the driver stuck in traffic at the Clonsilla level crossing. Confronted driver but he didn't utter a word so just noted further details like the L plate (had a passenger so was likely at least accompanied), no visible NCT (was a 06 reg) and tax expired since May which I relayed to traffic watch.

    Got a call back from Blanch garda station a week later who had investigated car details. Advised the car was recently purchased so they had some grace period regarding tax and NCT. Asked if I had camera footage or the reg details of the oncoming car of which I had neither so they said there wasn't much evidence and a statement wasn't likely to proceed much further. They did say they'd contact the driver to get their take but otherwise at least the incident was reported and noted so collaborating evidence if he ploughs into someone in future.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    I have a front and back camera in the car for about 7 years but given I do more mileage per year on the bike could really do with the same there. Despite having done periodic research into the matter I haven't found anything that remotely ticks all boxes, serious compromises on price, battery life, size/discreetness, waterproof etc.

    Was close to purchasing a Ghost Drift X at one stage but that's nearly €200 and only a single camera. Despite the poor battery life was disappointed they abandoned making the discreet GoPro Hero 5 Sessions cameras. The Cycliq Fly cameras get good reviews but expensive and there are problems with the front mounts. The Techalogic offerings are interesting, they have a dual lens so front and back but that would have to be helmet mounted which I'm not keen on, otherwise they have separate front and back cameras. Anyway that's subject matter for a different thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    No near miss this morning but tried out the new online Garda Traffic Watch portal, much easier than giving details over the phone so a nice addition. Just needs the ability to upload video if available but as mentioned supplying a link is probably easier for all concerned.

    At 06:30 on North Quays, Dublin 1 a car shoots up the 24 hour bus lane practically the whole length of the quays from Heuston to O'Connell Bridge, nothing new and a daily occurrence. Sails through a red light at Bachelors Walk, again a regular event. In passing I scanned his discs to see tax was expired since Mar 2024 so it was his 3rd strike to warrant a report. Can't understand why you'd draw such attention to yourself when no valid motor tax in place.

    Couple of other drivers noted with phone in hand and eyes not on the road in moving traffic. Gave a "really" comment in passing one who looked up at least. A couple of Gardaí on pedal bikes doing loops of the quays would have some tally at the end of a week.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I thought they already proposed putting cameras on buses to record offenders but were shot down by the Gardai.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭JMcL


    I'd imagine their objections would be nullified by whatever tinkering they're doing with the law to make GDPR a non issue (I've personally always thought this excuse to be a red herring on the part of the Guards as the most explicit exception is law enforcement)

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