2024 Irish EV Sales

I mean price parity for all types of car and SUVs but yes you're probably correct but it's not comparing like with like due to range.

Also I mean price parity without grant and not taking total cost of ownership into account. So when that happens, it's a huge tipping point. It basically means it makes no sense to buy an ICE. You'd be paying more money for an inferior car which is more expensive to run.

I think price parity for total cost of ownership including grant might have already happened. I'm not certain though.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/07/01/new-electric-car-sales-down-25-in-first-half-of-year/

The nearly 25% share of Diesel of 2024 sales - I'm assuming this includes light commercials like vans etc?

Time will tell, but with the hardening towards green politics in Europe and current hammering of EVs in the media I find it hard to comprehend there will be no new ice cars for sale in Europe in 11 years time, though if it comes to pass Europe will be the first to introduce a ban on new ice sales.

Plus manufacturers plan models and new releases years in advance. Would be a gamble to continue to design and plan for new ICE cars given they may well not be saleable when they eventually hit the market. They may well continue to manufacture older models however, but the emissions reduction targets could prove to be very difficult and expensive.

Manufacturer's will continue to supply the rest of the world with ice cars if a ban comes into Europe, though they may not need to have euro 6 emission levels outside of Europe, be interesting to see how agriculture and haulage develops in the future

Exactly and Ireland will have to get with the program or else people will be driving lumps of **** in 15 years time. I don't see it happening, we are just late adopters and in fairness the network of fast chargers is expanding at a rapid rate which will only gain extra momentum as the decade goes on.

We're close on some models.

But I think price parity for all models will be 26/27.

Batteries are supposed to drop prices 40% in next year or two also.

Who knows what affect self driving will have also.

It seems to be finally here. Lots of testing going on in China also.

I could see it spreading rapidly in a couple of years maybe as it's a trillion dollar industry.

I can't remember where I saw it, but some days ago I did see a headline about the European car industry saying they do not want a delay in the ICE ban. Presumably, as said above, they will have their roadmaps already set and it could be more trouble to rejig everything at this stage.

Yes not many cheap and small EVs yet but in the bigger categories they are already around the same price upfront not TCO. This still includes grants etc...

Look at the best selling list of cars, pretty much all of these have an equivalent BEV at the same price level, Tuscon, RAV4 etc...

Live in it for a couple of years.

Free rent basically.

There's loads of places to park in the suburbs.

How much would something like this cost, would there be any change out of 150,000 €, plus charges to park up in a designated area

There is plenty of lithium around. Large deposits in some European countries like Portugal, Germany and Czechia. Portugal is the only country currently producing it. The high cost has nothing to with rarity (it isn't that rare), it's the cost of extracting it.

There are also battery technologies being developed that don't use lithium. Sodium-ion and graphene-aluminium are just two examples currently being developed.

maybe of interest in the 2024 EV sales numbers:

they are down 27% overall, but they are only down 18% in Dublin, where over half the sales happen (EVs are a Dublin thing? 😉), whereas they are down by over 33% across the rest of the country, where you’d assume there’s far fewer home charging issues, but perhaps here’s a public charging network issue.

Or - people outside the commuter counties have seen or heard about EVs and decided it isn’t for them