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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    after todays SCOTUS ruling it seems very out of touch to suggest that inflation etc. is what this election is about now. Now this election is about electing someone who will not abuse immunity and be a “dictator on day one,” not even is it mainly about women’s healthcare rights, or Palestine - and certainly not bacon being up 6.9% YOY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,196 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It’s hardly a surprise that his family want him to continue, and it’s not really the consensus on the Dem side overall, where there are calls for him to step aside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The world and his wife know that both candidates are far too old for the job and new blood is needed.

    The question is who?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    For the Dems to meet their DEI goals they would need a black woman , they really should snap themselves out of their brain dead logic or they wont get a winner for 20 years , the Republicans seem to have a deeper bench

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 BLFOTR


    Telepromter Joe looking very weak up there last night yet again. The man is oozing ineptitude at this stage very sad to witness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Oh stop talking bollocks you, would ya.

    It's a genuine question being asked, not an opportunity for you to spout more shite.

    I'd like to know which person is the one to replace Biden from a realistic POV. I'm not interested in more cheap shots from Trump fans.

    Ye are beyond tedious at this stage.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It doesn't exist but politicians talk about solving non-existent crises all the damn time.

    I don't know what is so hard to understand about real wages being up and discretionary spending being up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    if you cant accept the basic truth that the dems have their hands tied you are not seeing the full field

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There seems to be a general consensus that EVEN IF Biden decided not to run again, there’s too little time for the Democrats to win with a new candidate and the logistics of developing a brand new campaign is just a bridge too far- so while we see a number of Democrats and donors reportedly jumping up and down in frustration at Bidens unwillingness to step aside from the race, the alternative is just as depressing from a predicted outcome perspective



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    seams badly timed, the optics dont look good but I assume nobody reads it anyway

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    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,994 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I'd be of the same mind that with 5 months to go there just isn't enough space for the Democrats to get another horse into the race. But if they're going to do that, they'll need to do it right now. I just don't know who'd be in the running that can realistically replace Biden. Also, I'm not so sure that there's an "unwillingness" to step aside on behalf of Biden. I don't think he's the blocker here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    It seems fine. First lady appearing in a magazine in an election year. Marketing th first lady through a magazine largely read by women seems a good idea.

    Certainly Biden has been down in the poles but this seems exactly what you want in that situation really. It also takes advantage of a big weakness in the Trump campaign which is that his wife obviously can't stand being near him and can't really counter this sort of campaigning directly to women from a woman close to the candidate.

    I can't see an issue with the timing or optics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    didn’t mean to imply that Biden was the “blocker” to stepping down - certainly his wife/family are major influencers here as we know and who knows what “spooks” behind the scenes are influencing the situation too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/06/competing-narratives-on-real-wages-incomes-under-biden/

    It's an interesting read. Two different timeframes giving different answers, one saying real wages are up and the other saying they're down.

    But these things are more complicated than that.

    Young people are graduating into a far more difficult job market.

    Average pay is being boosted by trades and minimum wage increases. A lot of regular Americans working regular jobs are only seeing the price increases.

    The basket of goods that inflation counts isn't reflective of everyone's everyday spending.

    Inflation doesn't include house prices.

    The average income now needed to buy a house has increased by 80% in the last four years.

    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/02/1242212997/housing-affordability-income-100000


    You can argue about the statistics all you want but America feels worse off and that affects votes. The middle class is being squeezed.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The timeframe that gives you that real wages are down is not reliable and can not be used due to the composition effects of the pandemic. Overwhelmingly low income people were laid off during the period and thus wages rose, it is not a real wage growth.

    How is it a more difficult job market when unemployment is at record lows?

    I am not arguing that Americans "feel" worse off. They are completely unused to having to deal with this level of inflation and are frankly mostly just wrong about what it means. I'm also absolutely certain that the large majority of those who "feel" worse off will suddenly "feel" better off if Trump wins even if not a single economic indicator changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭ronjo


    It seems the 2 most mentioned potential candidates on Dem side are Newsome and Whitmer.

    On GOP maybe Haley or Rubio?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    what’s happening as well is new towns are being targeted as wfh bases with prices then in the area rapidly rising - well paid people are decamping from the big cities to the “pretty” towns away from those cities but doing so in their 100s and 1000s putting great pressure on house prices and resources in those areas



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,365 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,255 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Another person to whom various material facts are explained and instead of considering them, retreats into tired tropes

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Skyfloater


    I don't get this idea that 5 months is not long enough for a new candidate to get over the line. It's a modern media age and the days of candidates waving at people from the back of a train are long gone. There's plenty of time to get their name out there, especially with the turbo boost of being Biden's replacement. The double haters and moderate democrat voters are only hanging for an alternative.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I am a pro-Joe myself and would go for an old guy who needs a moment to think over someone Bonhoeffer warned the world about in 1941.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    America doesn't count long term unemployed as part of its unemployment figure I thought.

    Anyways, there are countless articles about how bad it so find a job now.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/16/finding-a-job-is-getting-harder-even-in-a-strong-labor-market-heres-why.html

    People still debate politics as if it's a rational thing. People vote based on what is happening, and what's happening is a generation who can't buy a home, just like in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's a choice between running Biden and losing for sure or else someone like Newsom who at least has a bit of relative youth.

    Do people not realise what's at stake, here? If America goes as far as Trump and his backers want it to go down the rabbit hole of 'post-constitutionalism', one of the great pillars that holds up western liberal democracy collapses before our eyes, greatly weakening the ability of former allies to assert themselves on the world stage and giving great encouragement to similar actors in said countries.

    Trump is a man who proudly posted a picture of himself scowling down a mugshot camera and later posting a word cloud about himself which featured, 'REVENGE' at the centre. He has an organised team behind him, using the ideas of the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 as a basis of what is to be done in a second term, with a supreme court increasingly on his side and a plan to concentrate as much power in the office of president as possible.

    Michael Whatley, RNC co-chair also had this to say about the election,

    Whatley, who embraced the former president's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud, said that the RNC "will be focused like a laser on getting out the vote and protecting the ballot," saying that they "hired election integrity directors in battleground states." Those individuals, he said, are "already recruiting and training tens of thousands of volunteers to serve as poll judges workers and observers who will act as real-time monitors whenever votes are being cast and counted."

    So, they'll be putting their thumb on the scale in places they can get away with it as well.

    If Trump wins, there shouldn't be any hand wringing the day after, because apparently everybody is going into this eyes wide open, plotting a course directly for the iceberg.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't remotely think politics is rational and I'm not arguing that people feel things are bad. I would never be a good politician for this reason, but I am still happy to point out that these people are objectively wrong. Half the crap on twitter complaining about cost of living is people moaning about doordashing a coffee and croissant in the morning and it being too expensive. It is not remotely normal to be able to do that cheaply.

    The job market might look solid on paper — unemployment is low, job openings are high — but the reality for many Americans on the job hunt tells a different story. 

    LinkedIn feeds are crowded with layoff announcements. Mentions of recruiters ghosting job applicants have more than doubled on Glassdoor since before the Covid-19 pandemic. 

    This is basically "every stat we have says the jobs market is good but there is some anecdotes complaining about it". It is not reasonable reporting. It's also incredibly tech focused as if other jobs don't exist.

    I won't argue on the housing issue as I'm in full agreement there. It's not a remotely new phenomenon though, it's been a slowly building catastrophe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    speaking of timing when did this issue of vogue come out?

    Tedious indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Speaking from personal experience, a lot of people are pinched. Everything is significantly more expensive, buying a house is a pretty brutal affair compared to just a few years ago even. You certainly make valid points about perception vs reality, but at the end of the day, perception is going to count more for people. Government has done **** all to combat price gouging, the only thing I've seen recently is the DOJ taking up a case against the company that sells real estate management software that allows price fixing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The Democrats need someone who will hammer Trump and the Project 2025 **** relentlessly. Biden missed so many open goals in that debate. You really wonder about the DNC, not being aggressive enough here. They should be flooding the airwaves with excerpts from the manifesto and clips of the various ghouls outlaying their plans. With the SCOTUS decision yesterday, Biden should be making Judical reform one of his central platform pieces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    idk every day I read a headline that Biden’s DOL has secured stolen wages to the times of hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars for individual cases/businesses. And the DOJ has conducted I believe multiple raids of landlord corps suspected of engaging in price fixing.

    It’s not doing nothing, far from it, it’s just not shouting it from the rooftops to give criminals a chance to burn their evidence.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Housing is horrendous, you won't hear me argue otherwise. And yes, I agree perception counts more, and I do not claim to know the best way to fight perception. People are not used to high inflation and, clearly, are more concentrated on rising prices than rising wages. I do think it is important to highlight actual statistics though. It's the same as when people are complaining about crime rates when crime is down - people are utterly terrible at judging these things personally for themselves.

    Something like 70% of Americans report living paycheck to paycheck. Like, I'm sorry, but a vast majority of those people are absolutely full of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This I think is why I would fire his debate advisers, personally. Not one single mention of Project 2025? Such a critical error. Don’t have time to waste with raising that issue front and center.



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