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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,501 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Joe's mind is gone and that's all there is

    I disagree. I do think his sharpness in terms of responding quick on the fly is less than what it was.

    But his mind still seems more than up to doing the job, it's the communication that is his issue.

    But the communication demand is something that while important, could be completed in a format that isn't as 'aggressive' as debates are. Not saying debates shouldn't happen, just that they in themselves are not a determining factor in ones ability to perform as a President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    He no longer does interviews.bar the rare ones with autocued answers. His interactions with the public and media have fallen off a cliff in the last year. Understandably so given the state of his deterioration.

    The debate format he had was as low key and relaxed as any debate ever will be.

    Other mic off, long break in the middle etc.

    Saying Joe is senile and a danger to himself in general day to day life doesn't mean you love Trump.

    It's just pointing how that Joe is senile.

    No one who wants Trump to win will want Joe to be replaced.

    Anyone know about Ohio? That the names have to be in In 2 weeks time? So talk of a possibility of the Dems missing the Ohio deadline if they change horse mid stream



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why would Trump or the GOP want Biden gone?

    It's going to be very easy for Trump and Biden may deliver a congressional majority for the Republicans as well.

    Joe is just a figure head at this stage, same as Reagan was in the last few months but it seems that Joe's decline is much more advanced than Reagan in office.

    I hope Biden remains as the candidate and in office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Who, in their right head, would leave a senile adult in charge in the Oval Office with all the duties and responsibilities that go with the job? The mind boggles.

    Your proposition that Joe should stay in the job and as the Dem-candidate does not compute, except that you may be a fan of the other contender.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Joe isn't in charge at this stage. He isn't in charge of his own life. What can he do in the next few months?

    Senility develops over years, his doctors would have been aware as such probably in 2020 that it was starting to develop.

    Such is life .

    In an ideal world Trump would have had a heart attack last year and the batton passed on. A fatal one for all I care.

    I'm not fan of the mess that the Democrats have become and i certainly want them out .

    Given your position on Biden, So do you.

    The only question in the Democrat party now is whether it is possible to get Joe out.

    I can't think of any candidate in any election that imploded so profoundly and so visibly.

    Bobby Kennedy had a worse run up to being declared Democrat Presidential candidate, just.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I still think Bernie Sanders would make a sharper and better president than either of them. And let's not forget, Jimmy Carter could still technically run for a second term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Your second proposition would have been manna from heaven for Trump all those 4 years ago when he originally disputed who actually won the presidency; the GOP could have had a field day in court "Chief Justice, it was the doctors, they hid the truth, even when you were swearing Joe into office".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Bernie is so Anti-Israel right now, he'd never stand a chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It wouldn't have mattered and i don't blame Joe for driving on.

    Do you honestly believe that Biden is not profoundly compromised, he is manna from heaven now for the Republicans.

    It's also looking like he is going to fight to remain the candidate, which is nothing short of incredible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    You're not wrong, AIPAC would not like that at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Ref your question, Compromised: NO. I think that Joe, along with having the strain of the tasks and duties of the presidency to perform and make decisions on - "the buck stops here" - also has the cares of a father for a son facing trial for unlawful possession of firearms charges and drug use on his shoulders. Like Trump, he's not a quitter.

    There is a difference in their character and that is that I see in Biden the character I've outlined above, some-one with acumen I'd imagine I could buy a car from with a degree of faith in the warranty and life of the car. I've have absolutely no such faith in the business attitude of Trump. I'd expect him to try sell me a ten year old model of a Fiat Uno when I'd expressed an interest in a 6-month old Mercedes and laid the cash out on the counter-top to buy the Mercedes.

    Biden has been around the US political scene with a known way amongst his compatriots in both parties over the years on the craft of political deal-making.

    Trump is the complete opposite, brash, cold and totally demanding of loyalty from anyone he meets in the US. I see him as a malign influence on the US. Every other political or official person who've had the duty of dealing with Trump since 2014 has been labelled by Trump as crooked or disloyal or both publicly and privately. He probably has the honour of having fired more senior federal administration officers than any other US President in his 4 years in the job. That tallies in with his boasting that he's done more than any other president much better and more often: MAGA.

    The question remaining for the US voters in the presidential-race in Nov is: which candidate would you trust enough to buy into what he's saying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    That Joe, if he ever existed in such glowing terms, isn't running though, the Joe of 2016 is gone, dead.

    Half of dem registered voters think he should step down .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Re Joe's death, really - Has no one told him?

    Coincidentally, more than half of Democrat registered voters think Trump should step down as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    If they told him, the shock would finish him.

    Look my position is that Biden is at risk of being on stage and just staring at the camera for minutes at a time before walking off, you have more faith in his mental capacity and view the last day as a low rather than a current high.

    we have an insurmountable chasm between us.

    We will know more soon enough.

    If they stick with him Kamala will have to go though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭basillarkin


    Trump destroys Biden, this is 2016 all over again and the big orange rapist felon will be back in the white house. Dems only have themselves to blame. Biden was terrible. It's over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    its a rate of decay issue, some people think its a 1% a year thing but is more like an ok ok ok, fall of a cliff situation

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's obvious, now that CNN has [presumably] done an autopsy on it's running of the first debate, that tall high-backed chairs should be a MUST for the two elderly men concerned, if the other debates are to go ahead. I don't know if tele-prompters will be allowed back so that the debaters can keep to their own scripts and still be challenged by the O/P when his turn comes.

    I'd be surprised if there is no fallback position for CNN to cover the next two debates. The secret to success is already there as CNN have preventive measures [time slots and cut-off switches] in place to stop unscheduled interruptions by either side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If Trump is wise he won't enter another debate and allow Biden to improve on his performance. He can milk that one debate right up until Nov 5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,114 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Been saying that since the debate day. Plus he's got tonnes of fodder for commercials, too.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Agreed - He has nothing to gain by not debating Biden again and nothing to lose either , his supporters aren't going to worry.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,579 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Rudy Giuliani officially disbarred in New York for Trump election interference efforts

    The New York Supreme Court announced the decision on Tuesday prohibiting Giuliani from practising law, effective immediately. Giuliani previously was suspended from being able to practice law while the New York court considered attorney discipline proceedings against him.

    Another one getting their benefits from supporting Trump to the end from CNN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,794 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Good. It's beyond time that that chancer was found out.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    ”profound mental impairment” and “advanced dementia”, do you actually read your own posts.

    He’s as sharp as a cue ball, but neither of those 2 descriptions are accurate.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,511 ✭✭✭amandstu


    He probably reads his own posts back to himself in wonder of how fine a writer he is.(in fairness I couldn't bring myself to watch that debate as I feared it might not go well )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,779 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    On the Biden family front, there might be a piece of good news coming their way. It concerns Hunter Bidens conviction on drugs charges and the legal bind he is in for possessing firearms while so convicted.

    On Tuesday, the SCOTUS justices asked the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals to look again at the recent ruling in US v Daniels, the SCOTUS decision which overturned a conviction on drug users owning guns. Hunter Biden’s defense attorneys cited the ruling in their appeal to his case, where he was found guilty last month of buying a gun while addicted to crack cocaine. Last year, the Fifth Circuit reversed the conviction of a Mississippi man who owned two guns while using marijuana, saying US history and tradition “does not justify disarming a sober citizen based exclusively on his past drug usage.” Should the lower federal court uphold its ruling, it could be useful for Biden’s appeal.

    The report in the 2nd para above is in The Independent and on MSN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Not sure if there is anything new to it or any points of merit, but there is a bunch of twitter talk around released Epstein data pointing to a lot more Trump time and actions there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,816 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …should encourage his base out to vote on the day…..



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