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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,641 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    As a follow up to the LiveLive piece, this to me is just more anti EV sentiment in the media.

    Of course you are going to have the odd dodgy cell in an EV, but overall they are generally very reliable. Now we will have hundreds of thousands of listeners who think buying an ev is going to potentially cost you thousands.

    How often do they have ICE car owners on telling their stories of failed engines? I know 2 people personally who have incredibly expensive engine failures in top brand cars which weren't covered by any warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    The internal combustion engine is a fantastically reliable piece of engineering really. Generally the engine out lives the machine. Anecdotally over 20 years and probably 30+ cars/tractors I have never had a major engine failure. The biggest issue is actually replacing 12v batteries in the older machines!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭fits


    had to replace an engine in a ten year old Audi q5 with not outlandish mileage. Cost almost 4000. Still have the car now and it’s going fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    had to replace a turbo in a 7 year old 3 Series ~ €4400



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Good to see Bjorn might be out the woods in the short term - cue video in 3 years where he is trying to escape the tyranny of his new investor.

    I say good but it's totally his fault and if he lost it all I wouldn't have much sympathy. We cut a lot of things out of our renovation due to costs, an outdoor pool was never on the cards for us.

    Note to self. Overpay mortgage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,033 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Obviously you've never owned a 2.2 Mazda or a 1.6 Octavia or an insignia or or or..... I could go for a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    If you accept that an engine will last forever, clue, it won't, then you need to look at the clutch, turbo and servicing costs too before you say ice is as robust an an ev



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Had my 2011 insignia for 7 years and it hasn’t missed a beat yet.
    Have to get the timing belt and water pump and brake pads done due to age but it’s grand otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    To be fair, he admitted he made mistakes with the house. There were delays which drove the price up and he didn't have enough margin

    People make mistakes, it happens

    I think he's making another mistake by taking on this investor. If Rich Rebuilds is the bar then that channel has gone to shite since he turned it into a glorified sitcom

    Bjorn seemed very taken back by the donations he received, he said he didn't really want that and would have preferred to pay back a loan than beg for free money

    I disagree personally, people donated money because they're basically paying him for his content. If he stopped making videos then he wouldn't get donations, it's hardly free money

    If he wanted to expand the channel I'd much rather see him move to a fan funding model and hire in a production assistant rather than give away creative control

    Anyway, glad to see things are working out for him and we'll be seeing more 1000km challenges for a while yet

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Watching Bjørn Nyland's long winter range test videos of Ioniq 28kWh back in 2016 in extremely cold Norwegian winter weather, convinced me that the car would be suitable as our family car. I watched both the videos twice, then booked a 24h test drive in one. First thing in the morning, the day after the test drive, I contacted all 30 Irish Hyundai dealers, spent all day communicating and negotiating and by the end of that day had agreed a deal with one of them, ordered it and paid the deposit.

    Bjørn will always have a special place on my respect list even though I haven't really watched much of his content over the last 2-3 years

    He seems financially naive, his >€1 million mortgage is fine but not sure why he got himself forced into this additional high pressure high interest loan with his house builder, but that seems to be his only mistake. And he wouldn't have been in any financial trouble at all if Tesla had delivered the two (!) free Tesla Roadsters that they have owed him for years because of the worldwide referral program that he topped for many years in a row.

    Anyway the guy has huge leverage / sympathy in EV circles and I am sure all will be well for him and his family. Best of luck to him, he has done the world some favours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Direct link to show recording. Nissan are saying car has 8 year warranty for battery degradation but fault is cell 73 failure and not normal degredation. Not covered under warranty, pay 3-4k for one cell investigation and presumably replacement.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22411678/



  • Posts: 2,704 [Deleted User]


    That's a disgrace from Nissan. Getting out of it on a technicality, that battery now has less than 70% of it's original capacity. Glad I didn't buy a Leaf now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    But surely that's a manufacturing fault and would be covered anyway?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Terrible attitude to customer service but hardly surprising considering they’re still peddling cars with no CCS charging ability. I hope the owner has the financial ability to take them on with a good solicitor. If they get away with this once, it won’t bode well for others. SIMI will be hiding in a ditch somewhere no doubt. IEVOA should be out in front here lobbying Nissan for fair play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Nissan should try that with me 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Shooting themselves in both feet penny pinching like. It will hurt their sales far in excess what it cost to fix this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Screenshot_20240629-141829.png

    I don't think battery swap is the future even for trucks but this might be a handy stop gap for some all go all day type users.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,745 ✭✭✭✭josip


    EV charging hub in Germany including bus charging and Nio battery swap station.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Maybe, the problem with those automated battery swap stations is they seem very finicky

    The Nio ones for example require the driver to sit in the car for the duration of the swap, something like 10 mins

    Moving a 500kg or so battery is always going to be a bit tricky, especially if trying to automate it. What happens if the truck is at a bit of an angle, or it's snowing and the vision system freaks out

    Often it just seems easier to bite the bullet and plug the thing in

    One thing I'm surprised didn't take off was a battery that could be swapped by a forklift. Most warehouses would have a bunch already so no extra infrastructure.

    You could have some "booster" packs of around 100kWh which could be added or hot swapped into trucks as needed. It would make the tractors themselves cheaper and maybe lead to some better utilisation of battery capacity

    Might work well for construction sites or farms as well, where there isn't always power available where the work site is

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    imagine though if there was a liquid containing a high density of energy you could just pour in over the course of 10 mins…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    If you think there aren't enough charging stations, which are vastly cheaper (and easier) than a battery swapping station. There will never be enough battery swapping stations. As such it's a dead end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    any whatever the argument about cars, hgvs need massive range, some trucks are going 24hrs with alternating drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    One that will cause great, even existential difficulty to the lives of our grand children and their offspring? Yeah who gives a **** about them, let's use that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    and if we’ve no choice but to use it for a while more, better to not be using it in such a way that returns only about 30% efficiency from it….

    Most gas turbines in Ireland are set up for dual fuel operations, so they’ll run on diesel. And even at that they still return over 60% efficiency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    Ev trucks definitely aren’t the solution to that conundrum anyway. I’d ban non essential air travel personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I'd lay strong odds that only a small percentage of trucks are going 24/7. There's is no problem with a small % of vehicles being diesel. Its when the majority of vehicles in a city are diesel it's a huge problem.

    "...Diesel powered vehicles accounted for 64% of all newly registered vehicles in 2018, petrol for 39%, and electric vehicles, less than 1%.."

    Yet someone starts banging on about driving 24/7.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    if they are not running they are not emitting anything… Seriously though I have a new JCB loader with a 4.8 diesel, adblue, scr, the lot. You can run your finger inside the exhaust after 500 hours and it would be clean; no soot, carbon, nothing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,194 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Not entirely sure what trucks going 24/7 but not running....or licking the tail pipe of JCBs has to do with anything.



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