Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Nearly every commentator who would have been favourably disposed towards Biden agrees the debate was an absolute disaster for him.

Must say he has seriously turned me off this year with his relentless support for Israel and Netanyahu and failing to support the people of Gaza.

You realise bookmakers decide the odds this far out based on bets placed rather than actual probability right?

What Biden should do is concoct a reason for him to step down as president before the convention. Allow Harris come in as president for the rest of his term, but not have her run for election (on The Rest is Politics US edition they suggested that if she was promised a supreme court seat when one arises that would keep her away).

Then with Biden out of the way, have a quick decision as to who the best replacement candidate is, and put absolutely everything behind that person to sail through a brokered convention and then onto debating Trump in September.

That way Biden is not the candidate that will, based on last night at least, lose to Trump. And with him not as president, he can't be held up as some sort of lame duck who is not healthy enough to run but thinks he can still be president for ~6 months.

Won't happen, but would be good to see…

you think bookmakers odds are solely based on bets placed lol. They have traders. Don’t speak about something you haven’t a clue about. Biden was evens yesterday , 4/1 today. You think that much money was put on trump on PP in a few hours? They make judgement calls.

I have just finished watching the debate and it is painful viewing. I dont see how any swing voters watching that would come out voting for Biden. Best case scenario is they stay at home.

Unless Biden himself bows out - which I doubt - Trump will win. I hate saying that.

But…if pressure comes on him over the next few days from his family, Pelosi, Schumer, Harris etc then maybe he might consider it. He might. Still plenty of time before the convention for some to rise to the top.

I thought we were past these arguments.

I have no idea, you may be a new poster. In multiple multiple elections the bookies have been shown to be "wrong". They follow the money and win either way.

It's difficult to see how Biden can go forward as the candidate. In the history of televised Presidential debates (they started in 1960 I think), we've never seen a candidate so far off the pace and struggling even to make a coherent sentence - he was really 'that' bad and this was not even a a one off.

And it appears that moves are already afoot:

"Dems might be considering a last minute replacement for Biden"

"Fake news"

"CNN reporting that senior Democrats are for the first time considering going public in calling for President Biden to step aside after “dismal” debate performance."

The Democrats must be thinking about rolling the dice with another candidate as There are enough votes out there to stop Trump with anyone but Joe .Plenty of blue states and there should be enough middle ground voters to come out and vote for an alternative to Trump .It's quite incredible that they have allowed this situation arise .

This is very true. At one stage on election night in 2020 PaddyPower had Biden out to 5/1 to win. I laid my money on that.

Trump too was 5/1 just after securing the nomination in 2016.

Shouldn't all Presidents be judged on their ability to do the job, not their appearance when doing so? (Think FDR and attempting to hide his illness during his term)

I'm massively on the opposite side as Biden when it comes to the conflict in Gaza he's never again feted in Ireland as a consequence of this. But he has been unquestionably an excellent President FOR the US.

We've now almost a complete 4 year term for both Biden and Trump to compare with and there's no comparison as to the suitability for office between them both. Zero.

And that's leaving aside the criminal acts, charges, trials, and convictions that Trump has to his name. Not to mention that while Biden is clearly old and showing it, show too is Trump. Neither of them should be in the race, but as both of them are, there's only one clear winner.

Campaigning is hard work and tiring, Biden will not be as cogent or capable as last night in the later debates after gruelling months on the road.

Last night was awful and it was wrong to put him up there, though as I said earlier on the page. Unless it was to flush him out because he would not quit.

Problem is, given his mental faculties, he will not realize that or understand.

If he is pulled in the convention how will they stop him from walking on stage as Gavin Newsom is picked and Joe calling him his new VP.

An entirely predictable mess.

I'd say the cabinet is busy now considering invoking the 25th.

Which they may well have to but having to sink your nominee because of mental incapacity and backing him last week is going to be a unique mess as well.

It was obvious years ago the pace of his decline. The Democrats made the awful mistake of believing their own BS and kept sticking with Biden because Project 2025, Chemtrails, etc.