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  • #332
    Newbie12345The
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭Newbie12345The


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122296663#Comment_122296663

    you know she doesn’t have any self respect but why would she give up a over 50grand a year ( being conservative on that figure) contract



  • #333
    Trampas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Haven’t listened to the show but anytime I’ve heard either of them presenting shows they’re bad. Replacing with a social media person is going to be just as bad. I wonder who’ll be pushing the buttons for her.



  • #334
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297488#Comment_122297488

    It's hard to tell if it will be as bad, Lottie is not a DJ, she never was. Hence why they have dropped her from one show to another and then back into minimal slots for years

    This TikTok person could be 100 times better but I doubt she will be any worse



  • #335
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297444#Comment_122297444

    Oh I know, plus it well over 50k

    She keeps saying she doesn't want to use her fathers name or linked with her father, yet constantly links herseld with her father



  • #336
    Tork
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297566#Comment_122297566

    I know absolutely nothing about this TokTok person either but perhaps she will be better. Every presenter has to start somewhere and with a bit of practice (and training?) she might be perfectly fine. Lottie, unfortunately, is a known quantity. I wonder why they gave her this radio slot in the first place, and why they've yanked her from it so quickly. It is humiliating and even though I don't rate her as a presenter, I feel for her today. Was she so bad that they felt she couldn't be left on the air? Were they negotiating with replacements behind the scenes all the time? Did they lead her to believe it was going to be a longer gig? Perhaps she saw this as her big break - finally!



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  • #337
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297901#Comment_122297901

    RTE/2FM had to do something with Lottie after years been in the role and going nowhere. She would be on decent wages and was just reading a segment which really an intern or a very young DJ should get when trying to get into the business. If it was any other station she would have been given a slot years ago and then dumped when it failed

    This was her last chance I guess and it was a disaster, I think RTE/2FM might hope she will know just leave without a big payoff but hard to tell with Lottie, she seems happy enough to do the entertainment bit her entire life so she will probably go back into it and just take her wages

    By the way this is multiple times now she has failed, they have shoved her into multiple slots and its been a disaster, so her big break has come a few times and all failed.



  • #338
    fits
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    I think it’s disgraceful treatment of Lottie.

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  • #339
    Tork
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297935#Comment_122297935

    She's probably permanent by now, possibly by default after being around the place for so long. Unless they're clever about making her redundant they're stuck with her. From her point of view, why would she leave? A bruised ego is easier to get over than a diminished pay packet.



  • #340
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298062#Comment_122298062

    She was a contractor last year during her Toyota car advert in the RTÉ car park period, that would have been the time to make the decision not to renew it.



  • #341
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Tork


    Unless they had no choice? My understanding of employment law is that you can't keep giving people fixed contracts indefinitely. They may have had to regularise her situation, along with other people in RTE (wasn't there a court case?)



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  • #342
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,362 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122296896#Comment_122296896

    A lot of assumptions here..a career built pretty much solely around her dad's name supported by constant puff pieces from friendly rag mags when she does the most mundane thing, extremely tiresome.

    She has been well paid for very little over the years I wouldn't feel too sorry for her tbh....



  • #343
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298152#Comment_122298152

    Yes you can't roll over more than 4 years in fixed contracts, however I believe if you set yourself up as a company providing services to RTÉ like how Joe Duffy and Ryan Tubridy did it can be indefinetely. It would seem to me that she was an employee initially, then switched to be a contractor to take the benefits that gig gives.



  • #344
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122297901#Comment_122297901

    maybe, but is one of the two biggest slots on 2FM the place to find out? God be with the days that newbies be tested out of an evening slot or weekend breakfast - in the days that getting a 2FM slot was the actual pinnacle and you hadn't done years elsewhere beforehand (like Doireann did tbf).

    it just sounds like DH is just screaming "get me someone young and popular!!!" and dropping them into the slots. He must have one hell of a production team in there.

    And all she will end up doing is the usual "whats's your best ice cream/holiday/tv ad" links anyway.



  • #345
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298361#Comment_122298361

    2FM is in a section full of radio stations across Ireland which are better and more people want to listen to

    2FM is no more the pinnacle and in all honestly it is mostly a graveyard now.

    Sticking a TikTok person on it has more chance of getting listeners than anything else, after all the two jonnies are just "stars" from online podcast re they not?

    When you have the likes of Lottie as part of the staff then hiring outside will be the only option



  • #346
    Tork
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298380#Comment_122298380

    It's a fair comment that 2FM is no longer the pinnacle. Certainly, it's not the high point of an influencer's career. It's a great way to up their profile, thanks to the exposure they'll get on RTE. It's not a good recipe in the medium to long term because you can't see any of these people staying around for the long haul.

    2FM could do something radical and hire good young presenters from local radio. Mix up the music selection more, cut out all that "mad for the craic" and be a solid youth station. Young people can listen to all the comedy and chatter and messing they want on their smartphones. Maybe they might like to listen to music with a bit of curation and presenters who aren't trying to be comedians. 2FM is simply reheating what they're getting online anyway.



  • #347
    squonk
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298173#Comment_122298173

    I think it’s clear enough and unless Lottie herself comes on here and clarifies, then we’re all assuming one way or another. On a purely professional basis I agree with you. She got given the job, they decided to rehash the lineup and pulled in someone with lots of followers.

    I’m looking at it though on a personal level. I have no desire to see someone led on abc dumped without being given anything like a half decent chance. Even the most incompetent person will last more than 3 weeks in a job before they’re finally managed to be cleared out. Lottie gig no chance whatsoever. I don’t care how much you dislike someone, it really should register that she’s been unfairly treated here. Pulled from a prime time slot is humiliating and I can’t see it’s her fault yet. There isn’t even a Llistenership JLR book for the period.



  • #348
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298469#Comment_122298469

    2FM could, but they won't, they hire the likes of Lottie because of her father. Or Doireann because she is part of the larger RTE family. Then try to paint it up as a new hire

    Actually going for the Two Jonnies and Trapp is a total break from the norm

    I expect the pressure is on in RTE and 2FM could be shut down tomorrow and nobody would give a sh*t, well apart from all the highly paid people in it like Lottie



  • #349
    Mr Disco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298014#Comment_122298014

    loddy doddy free da loddy, loddy doddy free da loddy, the queen of RTÉ



  • #350
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298014#Comment_122298014

    She was terrible at her job, what exactly did you want them to do?

    The fact more people could have predicted she was terrible in the first place shows how poor 2FM judgement is putting her into the role in first place



  • #351
    fits
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    I thought she was decent on breakfast republic a few years ago. I don’t listen to anything on 2 fm right now but everyone is entitled to fair treatment. A good few people have been messed around in there.

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  • #352
    squonk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298550#Comment_122298550

    That’s the point though. The 2FM brass knew what Lottie could and couldn’t do. If she was unsuitable for the position she shouldn’t have been offered it in the first place. If Joe is a woeful chef but John, the restaurant manager promotes Joe from the dishwashing to senior chef and most of the food starts coming out either undercooked or burnt to a crisp, who’s at fault? John surely. I think if you promote someone into a position then you need to offer them support to meet the standards required or give them the chance to try and meet the standard before either demoting them or terminating the door.

    Dan Healy has really fúcked up here by promoting Lottie to a position he, you could argue, knew she wasn’t suitable for and then pulls her without due time to find her feet. Lottie’s old man was litigious but he was a trained solicitor. I can’t see Dan Healy having much of a leg to stand on if Lottie decided to air her grievances in a workplace tribunal.



  • #353
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298601#Comment_122298601

    Maybe they are trying to move her on, doing the entertainment she was never going to leave. She is on big wages. Put her into a primary role, if she fails then a reason to move her on. If she succeeds then great they have a inhouse hire for a primary role

    She was hired for a role, she is supposed to be a star, she failed and listeners left because she was poor in that role. How would she have any case in a workplace tribunal?



  • #354
    leath_dub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,582 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298630#Comment_122298630

    Newstalk are doing a daily Love Island/ entertainment slot on Pat Kenny. Would Lottie be interested in that?



  • #355
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,362 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298482#Comment_122298482

    Was there some big announcement by RTE/2FM she was given the job "full time" so to speak? Maybe she should have checked her contract....



  • #356
    Breaston Plants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭Breaston Plants


    Is she actually officially going or is it just paper talk/ rumours. Nothing official as I can see. Either way, she'll be zero loss, one of the most irritating voices on radio.



  • #357
    Mr Disco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298630#Comment_122298630

    how much is she on?



  • #358
    squonk
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298665#Comment_122298665

    Because you can’t just parachute someone into a position not suitable for them then pull the rug from under them after 3 weeks. Yes, if she was given 3-6 months and the JLRs were particularly bad and revenue was looking shaky, then you have a case for sure. If however you parachute someone you’re hoping to convince to leave into a job where they’re expected to fail and, just to help that out, you pull them after 3 weeks, then that’s a class of constructive dismissal. Nobody really puts their stamp on a role in 3 weeks! It’s simply too short a time. The real reason here is that they never intended her as a permanent replacement. Now if they’d discussed that approach with her and she understood it was a seat warming gig, I’m sure things would be different.

    Why would anyone aspire to work at 2FM under Dan Healy given this carry on.



  • #359
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298674#Comment_122298674

    No idea. Do you?



  • #360
    Mr Disco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298712#Comment_122298712

    yeah that’s why I asked the question



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  • #361
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122298747#Comment_122298747

    Why do you think she has hung around RTE for years doing an entertainment section on low wages?



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