EU Elections 2024 - Results

By "become good developer again" i assume you mean just go back to stealing from his employees pensions?

Very good thread (and the politics forum one also). Thanks for all the analysis.

I do quite like how (with one oddball exception) posters generally leave their personal preferences or left/right biases behind and just dispassionately analyze the maths of the situation whilst the count is ongoing. Kinda like a ceasefire.

Who 'lionise's' him and 'ignores' it? There are plenty of politicians with faults who get elected. Reggie has 60K plus votes under her belt and there are several questions over her own failed business...

I'd say Lynn Boylon is looking good now, that's a healthy 11K lead over Cuffe in 5th and Aontu are originally a SF splinter, as well as Daly and Smith being left sided and as likely to go to Lynn as much as Cuffe O'Riordain

I would say Ming is pretty anti NATO, indeed anti anything defense when it comes to what we might catagorise as Western nations. He was very loud against PESCO when it was a thing.

But his influence which is what you were talking about is based on him not being an independent.

So no independents don't have influence. Members of parties like Ming do.

How many of his voters could tell you what European party he belongs to? He has to first get elected, part of that success is running as an independent here in Ireland.

What follows then stems from the quality of the candidate in, yes, selecting their grouping, how intelligent and personable they are to forge working relationships both inside and outside their grouping.

The comments I'm reading are there is no point in electing an independent as an MEP, the statement is not true.

Absolutely - a smart, astute Independent willing to establish relationships within the Parliament can have an impact. Flanagan has shown that, and you'd feel Ciaran Mullooly could too.

The issue is more with the cohort of Independents that just want to go and shout, with no coherent plan and no interest in engaging. Daly and Wallace have shown all they want is their soundbites when handed a mic, you'd feel Niall Boylan would be the same

I would be surprised at this stage if Daly doesn't move ahead of Ó Ríordáin from the combined transfers of Gibney and Smith. I think those who are expecting a big SD transfer to Labour are going to be in for a shock. (or maybe I will)

Brid smith next after Gibney..a lot to Daly I would guess...

Can’t describe how happy I am Brid Smith isn’t getting in.

Aodhan needs to stay ahead of Cuffe who would likely drag him back past Daly (or vice-versa of course).

I think Gibney will transfer well to Aodhan but in the region of 5/6k. I think it largely depends where Gibenys vote in Dublin is. If its Howth in Cians region (i.e. DBN), I'd expect a big transfer to Aodhan. If its Gary Gannons area (i.e. Dublin Central) then no, I wouldn't expect much for Aodhan from there. If its more south, Cuffe would likely do well.