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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭green daries


    In my opinion they are going to really double down on screwing us if they get away with it but there's a tipping point for lads and they will kick or get out heard of an adviser (wasn't being the nicest about calling out and was intending on doing a dairy inspection whilst there )in roscommon area being ran clean out of a lads yard. (i would call him level headed enough)

    Came out cos his lorry driver was cribbing about things left in his way (very poor driver ) and the farmer told them he had enough leaches about the place and was putting the herd up for sale. Area manager and store manager had to call to smooth things over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,010 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    There's too many people making a living off the farmer's back. Too many pen pushers, things have been pushed too far. You can't go to your bank anymore for financial help, they drag their heels and fob you off. Cant get a doctor's appointment to discuss any problems. People have had enough and rightly so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Well definitely the bad Spring got to a lot of lads. Was at the ICMSA county AGM about 6 or 8 weeks ago. Was supposed to start at 8.00 but didn't until 8.30. Anyway it was about 8.15 when I got there and normally at these things when you go in they would all be standing around at the back chatting, blowing s,,t. But they were all sitting down as quiet as mice.

    And usually during the meeting some few lads would pipe up complaining about something. But that night not a word out of anyone. It struck me as being very strange. I guess lads were just worn out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭green daries


    Plus one on the pen pushers and as for the the banks ....…forget about them shower



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭green daries


    That's a very worrying sign ...... would agree with your thoughts on being worn out .....to add I wonder is all the changes and uncertainty on top of the attempt by the media to portray us as criminals and in a negative light seeping into the mindset



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Well will Ye vote for to put the likes of Sean Kelly, Billy kelleher and Co. back so. O



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I'll vote to put them back somewhere but not in Brussels .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Problem with alot of farms is there kips badly laid out yard poor health ebi cowd prone to mastitis lameness bad udders hard to milk as heifers.Small calves been fed forever to get them saleable.All these things add up oh and the best one letting cows out for a few hours no wonder lads are worn out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,220 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Sure aren't lads here giving you advice for a long time on how to straighten your show up and straighten you up, at least they and you are trying that, something in that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭green daries


    Ya some are definitely my own could do with more straining out .......I think it's a lot of factors. I know you're being half serious along with looking for a reaction ....but all your points have weight in there own right it will be different in different yards but I simply think it's three things are getting to lads is in no particular order

    money or the lack of it

    Labour or the lack of it

    And weather (bastardof a spell going on nearly 15 months around here minus the good month last june ). In my opinion it's combinations of the above that's making all the normal problems seem insurmountable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭ginger22


    And the gas thing is all these boyos are in the media now calling for reduced red tape after introducing it all in the first place. Two face cnuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    I bought a fair tract of land in me day lad .If others could have done the same after the crash instead of building parlour and the likes theyd be better of now instead of whinging wheret it all went wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,577 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    You really are a dope.

    Your previous post was complaining of bad yards and bad parlours.

    And now this of building parlours and the likes as you put it and you are whinging yourself in every post.

    Do you not read your own posts? You make no sense. Self praise is no praise. Only makes you more of a dope to read.

    I posted of actual people taking the ultimate step in taking their own lives and you come out with these troll posts. What are you even here for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    Are you the kind who’s milking 200 cows in an 8 unit parlour. No wonder it pains you that you can’t get a few students to make your life a little easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Is there suicide awareness courses being run in your locality? It is contagious in the sense that it occurs in sporadic clusters, lots of copycat type incidents when one or two kick off. While there's individual reasons and deeper analysis to each tragic case, I've seen it time and time again where it runs through a small district for about 2 years. I remember when I was in my mid 20s I knew (I mean personally knew, not new of) 5 young people who died from suicide, all in their 20s. I don't think there has been one such case locally since. There was another bout of it in about 10 miles away a few years back.

    Knowing the signs and what to say can help prevent some instances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    That's a common theme, and I think the farm organisations are guilty enough of pushing it to encourage the feeling of victimisation and to create a siege mentality at times. There's very few votes in positivity.

    But I think that it's a small enough factor after, and this malaise or gloom is not confined to dairy farming either. I would have no personal issue with the current rules and regs, in fact they suit me quote well. I consider myself as having very pragmatic, realistic, and resilient personality, (maybe to my own detriment at times!), and last week was the first time I ever said to my wife that I felt like a failure as a farmer.

    We've had later springs but this past winter has been draining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,010 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It's The usual bank holiday posting shite to get a reaction . Hopefully people have better things to do than rise to his drivel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    just hit the ignore button ….I scroll past most of his posts ….just trying to be a smart arse and draw reactions out of posters for his own **** and giggles …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Its the constant fire-fighting the weather, thats the most draining part be it silage/slurry/getting crops in etc, theirs only tiny windows now to get work done, and your royally fu**ked if you cant craic on at it a on few hours notice, that of course means you need a very good contractor, our the ability to do it yourself, which adds more work to a situation where your out night and day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    There was no big crash in land prices after the building crash, if anything farming was going well and kept the economy going and land prices went up during this period. So the way you implied land was cheap and people were fools for not buying is false.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    I bought good land less than 5k acrei had auctionners ringing me every week 2009 was a disaster year farmers like everyone had no money.i rented huge areas of land and ran a dairy calf to beef operation built a massive sfp didnt waste it like others did waited till land got cheap then i bought it im building cash again waiting for the next crash



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭stanflt


    the weather has been a killer for the last 5 years- I’ve some of the best and driest land in the country but we have made the decision to milk 220 cows indoors predominantly on 4 robots going forward



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Youve the best land in the country at the cheapest rental rates in the country fair play to u.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭alps


    You did well to build a massive SFP through 2009. Not many were able to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭alps


    That's a huge decision, and no doubt you've thrown the figures around every which way, but I can't help thinking that the system you're underraking hold no competitive advantage over our european colleagues.

    All of our inputs (bar grazed grass) are out of line with other countries and I'd be a fair bit aprehensive of sidelining an edge.

    Best of luck with this venture and really look forward to your reports as you go. You've always been most upfront with figures...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Has grass growth fallen off a cliff anywhere else or is it just me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Bought friesan calves used to get 540 euro two subs slaughter and extensification.If i just kept them alive id get the 540 i used to get 1000 to 1100 to slaughter.Rented huge areas of ground made alot of money and sfp when came in was really nice got the money didnt need the cattle i had a great sfp to go to bank with when land got cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Stan has cheap land rent the bestr ground in the country no wonder hes putting in robots.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Farmers need other farmers. We need peers not advisors.

    And we’re all fairly isolated at the moment, with little outside of social media to stay in touch. With the amount of negativity towards farmers on social media, I’d say it’s as bad as it is good for lads.

    The whinging siege mentality of “they’re all out to get us” that our reps put forward is as useless as the toxic positivity from Teagasc and IFJ.

    This forum is not social media. It’s more a peer thing. There might be the odd poster you don’t like but he/she is still a fellow farmer. And you’re safe when you’re posting on here even if you’re having a row with someone.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭green daries


    Ti's just you .................like fook it is there is a lot of lads feeding silage round here fields shook a week with no colour of nitrogen in them 😳 I'll be in bother myself if the week comes as cool as they say.....



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