Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Plenty of things up north, such as the Good Friday Agreement but not down here as they have always been in opposition. So while they have been supporters of things like womens rights and gay rights it is fair to say small things like proposing referendums don't really come into the scope

Likewise they haven't created the housing and health crises that we are currently living through. They had a lot of good ideas around the last recession like taxing those who had money more than those who didn't but again being in opposition they couldn't get it through

The Good Friday Agreement was an international agreement between two governments, brokered by John Hume. There are about twenty people who can claim it as a legacy ahead of anyone from SF.

Maybe you could list the "achievements" of SF.

You could include some examples from their time in charge of Dublin City Council.

People unfortunately die in war. The IRA made mistakes, certainly, did things that were in hindsight regrettable but the very very most were enemy combatants, circa 70%, an unheard of rate.

Either way, it is nearly 30 years ago, to most of the electorate it is ancient history.

Well councils by their nature are pretty quiet and don't have much power to change things but if I was to list achievements of Dublin City Council they did fly the palestinian flag over city hall last december and they did pass a motion to protect libraries from anti-LGBTQ+ protests. I'm not sure if they have much control over hospitals but I'd rather be in St James's than in UHL if I was sick.

So bad that you'd be fearful of getting sick because of what the hospital might do to you. That's the FFG legacy

The GFA wasn't done the day it was signed blackwhite. There was a lot of water yet to flow under that bridge. Not least the reforms it ushered in.
You are entitled to your opinion that they have no legacy of achievement but as their growth shows, that is just an opinion, a curmudgeonly and rather bitter opinion at that.

Wrong again.
I gave an alternate view/opinion of what blanch had an opinion on. The function of the word 'or' here.

Or…John Hume made several attempts at brokering a solution and failed and it was only when he went on a solo run from his party, the SDLP and created an initiative called the Hume-Adams initiative that a workable solution was found.

What abuse?
I give my opinion in every post, if I am stating facts I will back them up with links.

Correct, when you look back, the period around the time of the GFA can be seen as an oasis of peace and reconiliation. The middle ground was winning. Unfortunately, since then, the rhetoric of the sectarian parties has drowned out that middle ground and the resurgence of SF and the DUP are emblematic.

 the period around the time of the GFA can be seen as an oasis of peace 

Wow, just wow.

The rise of SF and the rise of the DUP, in my opinion, can be traced back to the St Andrews agreement and the adjustment to the procedures on electing a first minister.

It had the effect of hollowing out the centre ground, which was a predictable and understandable development given the condition of both communities in NI.

IIt has little to do with achievement of either party, but more a mutual response to fear and hatred of the other side.

St Andrews was a bad development for politics in NI. I

some sf supporters are gonna be very very upset if this doesnt go in their favour on the day, and thats the way its looking!

I doubt it.

SF seem to be good at playing the long game.
They'll be happy with the changes in Irish politics they are forcing to happen. It's part of their legacy too. The nonsense sham of civil war politics over for good.

It wasn't the Olympics Bob.

You didn't win if you killed more of one type.

Conflicts/wars once they are allowed begin have a time worn habit of dragging tragically on.

What makes the one here all the more tragic was the fact that the conditions to prevent it could have been delivered by those responsible for stable society at any time since partition.

Generally speaking, at the time of the recession the general public had to cut back a lot more than the high earners did. Thats down to govt policy, not necessarily the banks. Yes the banks got away with a lot and even today the banks don't pay tax on profits due to some crazy revenue law that the govt don't want to change. Again govt policy is at fault here. But then if you look after the super rich that donate to the party while you get your ministerial pension, sure how bad eh?

And what political parties do we need to thank for it all?

This is a narrative that isn’t based on the actual facts.

SF had been creeping up electorally on the SDLP for quite some time and simply overtook them when the GFA was achieved. And make no mistake, nationalists and republicans and others saw it as an achievement. The SDLP repudiated Hume when he liased with Adams and that still has an effect on their vote.

What happened in Unionism was wholly different. The DUP tried to destroy the GFA and major figures in the UUP defected to them. Bur once they got the upper electoral hand Never Never Never was quietly forgotten and the Chuckle Brothers were born. Remains to be seen if they get away with the same capitulation over the Protocol and sea border.
St Andrew’s didn’t change the fundamentals of the GFA either.
I think though the GFA needs agreed reforms in certain places though.