Renting without a job

mrslancaster · 19-05-2024 03:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156633#Comment_122156633

Plus the father's dog and possibly OP's mother who it seems is looking to leave her current home for somewhere cheaper. OP said he has never held down a stable job so not sure what employer would overlook the lack of qualifications plus a lack of experience unless for a basic pay job.

Think this is a wind-up and anyone trying to be helpful fell for it. OP apparently managed to get an irish bank account and mobile account without an address and said he's happy to have a lower standard of living here as long as he can become a permanent resident. Who moves to a different country to have a lower standard of living?? 😏😏😏

Edit: OP has just highlighted the way irish taxpayers are being scammed.... good one OP. 😂😂😂

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 03:24PM

I actually did a lot of research and I'm aware of the situation. I never said health care was great in Ireland. That's what I heard other people saying on YouTube when they compared irish health care to canadian health care. I know that irish health care isn't the best but it also isn't the worst.

And none of my friends said that Ireland is good for us. My friends don't really know anything about Ireland. I only mentioned that they complained about their own country.

I definitely believe what everyone is saying here. I know that nobody is lying or making this up. I just really wanted this to work. Ireland is one of my favorite countries.

I have been trying to get out of Germany for a very long time. Staying here for a couple more years isn't really an option. What am I supposed to do here? I legally cannot get a high school diploma anymore. Nobody will pay for it. I went to school for 10 years and couldn't get my diploma. I was sent to 5 different schools and missed so much stuff that I couldn't make it.

Now I receive something like "disability pension". A doctor wrote something that says I'm unable to work because of my autism. That's why I receive government benefits. I don't have permission to work here. They don't want to hire disabled people.

My only option is to stay here and sit around until I get old and die. But that's not what I want.

And my wife wants to work. The problem is… if she starts working I will lose my disability benefits and the government will force her to financially take care of me because we are married. They say if my wife has a job then she can take care of you. Obviously my wife is not happy with that. She said I'm just holding her back. She wants to support her family in the Philippines, get her son here but all that won't be possible if she's stuck supporting me.

I wouldn't be surprised if one day she decided to leave me and take our child with her. I'm pretty much useless to her. I can't offer her or our son anything. I don't have money to make them happy or give them a good life. I don't want to be useless anymore.

Honestly I tried working here but always get fired after 2 weeks because I'm too slow and can't concentrate long enough. And as soon as I mention I have autism they tell me "You can be autistic after work but we don't need that here".

I had like 10 jobs in the past but it never lasted. And that's why the government sent me to a doctor who filled out a document that says I'm unable to work. Now I'm not legally not allowed to work anymore. I'm stuck receveing 500-600 euros a month from the government. But I was told I could still work in other countries. This only applies to Germany.

There is no way to revoke my status. Unless I can prove I'm not autistic. Which is impossible because I was diagnosed as a child.

I don't want to be useless anymore. If I don't change something it's just a matter of time until I lose my wife and son too. Nobody wants to be with someone like that. And I feel bad I put her in this situation. My wife isn't even happy in Germany. She doesn't like the culture, the language and the fact that she's required to take care of me financially.

Going back to the Philippines isn't an option for me. I wouldn't have any money there. All my benefits would stop. And finding a job in the Philippines as a foreigner is pretty much impossible. They all think foreigners are rich and definitely wouldn't hire them. And most jobs only pay 4-5 euros a day. Not enough to live a comfortable life. Living in the Philippines usually only works for people who are retired.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156813#Comment_122156813

Like I said, I don't expect anyone to understand the logic behind all this. Moving out of Germany is all that matters to me. It doesn't surprise me that people are starting to think I'm just making this all up. Years ago when I was in the US I created an account on a site like this one but for the US only. And I ended up getting banned on that site because people thought I'm a troll. They wouldn't understand why I refused to go back to Germany even though my chances of succeeding were pretty low. Same thing happened years later on a Philippines site when I married my filipina wife. They told me someone like me shouldn't marry a filipina and that I would never be able to bring her to Germany. Well that still worked out somehow. But I'm just saying… people never really understand my way of thinking. And why getting out of Germany means so much to me. Maybe it's just me being stupid and not wanting to see reality.

I would rather live a simple life in Ireland than be a millionaire in Germany. Because why would I need all that money if I'm unhappy in my country?

When I was a child I had problems talking to other people in front of my parents. So they sent me to therapy and pretty much forced me to speak. Since then I hate the german language and speaking it makes me uncomfortable. It is easier for me to communicate in english even though it's not my native language.

I just don't have to have anything to do with Germany anymore. I know I can't run away from my problems. That's not what it's about. Then I'll just take my problems with me to another country and deal with them there. Doesn't make sense I know. But that's how I am.

herbalplants · 19-05-2024 03:51PM

What I spot straight away is your wife married you cause you are German not because she liked you. Do you realise that?

Your post speaks volumes. Your wife wanted to get into Germany to support her family in Philippines , this is why she married you!! You are holding her back. Now she doesn't like the german culture. She wasn't honest with you. So I would start with sorting that first OP, no point moving to another country when your relationship may not be honest. She should have married you because she wanted to spend her life with you, even if she may have to support you. Sorry to sound harsh.

Pauliedragon · 19-05-2024 04:02PM

Am I the only one that thinks this thread is a wind up?

PmMeUrDogs · 19-05-2024 04:27PM

If this thread isn't a complete wind up, I'll throw out some information in addition to what's already been said...

You say you're autistic, and it's impacted you so much you've never held stable employment and are currently deemed unable to work.

I am also autistic and I do work full time and always have - and I can tell you from experience that healthcare is appalling in terms of autism. When I say appalling, I mean there are ZERO adult autism services, not even assessments, particularly if you're considered moderate or low support needs.

In addition, we may have anti discrimination laws but that doesn't stop discrimination - I've experienced it first hand on many occasions. Having your reasonable accommodations met may be law but it's still not very commonplace, companies simply don't care.

I'm not going to repeat all the others talking about the financial side, but in terms of work, you will have an extraordinarily difficult time finding any kind of remote work with neurological disabilities, no stable work history and no degree.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 04:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122157022#Comment_122157022

No that's actually a very normal thing for filipinos. Children always support their families in the Philippines. That's part of their culture.

She misses the Philippines and even told me she wants to build a house there one day so we can all live there together when we're old.

And moving to Germany wasn't really her idea. She would have been fine in the Philippines. When she accidentally got pregnant she had no choice but to stop studying and go to Germany with me. Because otherwise we wouldn't have been able to stay together. And how would I take care of my child if I don't have money. So we had to go to Germany.

mrslancaster · 19-05-2024 05:13PM

@ pauliedragon - "Am I the only one that thinks this thread is a wind up?"

No, I agree. It's either

1) a wind up by someone showing how guillable we are to a sob story and how easily some can scam their way into receiving all sorts from our taxpayers without contributing a cent, or

2) the OP has special needs that requires a lot of supports.

Some of OP's posts mention getting a job while others say he never had a job and then others say that he is medically unfit to work. The family will need childcare, then, the grandfather will come here with his dog and will care for the child. Wife will work or she will need to care for OP. Family will have no income but could keep renting apartment in germany while getting set up here. Posts are all over the place.

CramCycle · 19-05-2024 05:22PM

There are multiple states in Germany which in my experience may as well be seperate countries in regards culture and attitude, have you tried anywhere else in Germany first? Your plans for Ireland are at this stage, unrealistic at best. You will be bankrupt and isolated in a few months. Get working on a FETAC level 5 qualification online for both you and your wife and then go through agencies here to see can work be found for you. Most minimum wage jobs here demand alot more than they should in regards effort and you will have a hard time here finding employment but you might get lucky less sociable jobs if you are physically fit.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122157475#Comment_122157475

How is it a scam?

I have tons of papers from doctors and schools confirming my diagnosis. I have atypical autism and a few signs of ADHD.
The benefits I'm receiving are benefits for disabled people. I have a right to receive those benefits. I didn't scam anyone. And I also don't want anyone to feel sorry for me. It's not about that. I'm just explaining my current life situation so that it's easier for everyone to understand.

And my dad going to Ireland with us just an idea. He never actually confirmed it. He said he might consider coming with us. But let's forget about that. Like everyone said it probably isn't going to work. Especially with the dog.

Also, I was told that after living in Ireland for 1 year I would qualify for disability benefits in Ireland.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social-welfare/disability-and-illness/disability-allowance/

To qualify for Disability Allowance, you must:

Have an injury, disease, or physical or mental disability that has continued
for at least one year, or is expected to continue for at least one year
Be substantially restricted from doing work because of your disability, that would be
suitable for a person of your age, experience and qualifications
Be aged between 16 and 66
Pass a means test (an assessment of any income you have – see ‘How your income is assessed for DA’ below)
Live in Ireland and meet the habitual residence condition.

That's what it says right here.

Of course I would rather work, but I don't understand why people say there are no government benefits in Ireland.

Fritzbox · 19-05-2024 05:50PM

If you can't hold down a job in your native Germany how do you expect to do so in rural Ireland?

19-05-2024 06:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122157720#Comment_122157720

Ah, now we're getting to the bottom of it.

Welfare tourism.

airy fairy · 19-05-2024 06:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122157720#Comment_122157720

So you're basically coming to Ireland to claim benefits, housing and such. Your wife's visa seems to be the only thing that's stopping you, because you've chosen to ignore all warnings of high rents and low paid jobs.

I'm thinking you inadvertently want to find out about moving from Germany to Ireland and wanting to know how easy it is to transfer your disability payments from there to here. You're also picking at the surface at trying to see how feasible it would be to have your wife, child, your father and a few relations to come along too.

I don't understand how you've said you've travelled extensively and worked but claiming disability and don't work. I'm confused.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 07:22PM

Why would I want to move to Ireland just for the benefits? I'd be better off in Germany if that was the case. Because I can get benefits here without problems because of my disability. Going to Ireland for benefits wouldn't make any sense.

And yes I had a lot of small jobs in the past but never worked for more than 3 months. I saved up as much money as possible while living with my mom and used my savings to travel to other countries. That's how I did it in the past. Because traveling was the most interesting part of my life. I had nothing else.

People in Germany don't want us here. Especially the government. Because we are nothing but a burden to the government. And I don't want things to be like that. It is not like I have at choice at the moment.

And let's say we move to Ireland and after 2-3 years I lose my job or cannot work because of my health.. it would be very bad to leave the country again especially if our son already got used to going to kindergarten in Ireland.

In that case I would qualify for disability benefits in Ireland as far as I know, right? I know that nobody likes people who receive government benefits. We experienced that many times. Some of my wifes friends make fun of her for being married to a guy who receives government benefits.

And no, as soon as I leave Germany my benefits will stop. I cannot receive german disability benefits while living in another country. I'd have to get a job which is fine. That's what I want. I want to try as much as possible. But if things don't work out I wouldn't have a choice. Without money I would starve and die. Anyone would take disability benefits over starving on the streets.

My wifes visa has nothing to do with anything. I'm not coming to Ireland to claim benefits. The site even says I would only qualify after 1 year. So it doesn't work that way.

airy fairy · 19-05-2024 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122157884#Comment_122157884

Definitely yes.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 07:54PM

I feel like nobody really understands the whole situation. No matter how many times I try to explain it. Everyone always thinks I have bad intentions.

At this point I would just get a small cabin in the woods in Sweden and try off grid living. But I can't even do that because you also need money for that. I just want to live in peace with my family. I do not want to harm anyone.

airy fairy · 19-05-2024 08:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122158264#Comment_122158264

But you need money no matter where you want to live. You just can't rock up to a country and expect it to be better and to receive supports and work when you don't even have a credible work history.

You know yourself that you will be seeking housing and funding benefits from the start.

I don't know Germany very well, but tbh, it's not much different to Ireland, UK or otherwise. Times are tough everywhere and tempers and tolerances are short, much much shorter than even a year or two ago here. You won't get the massive welcome you may have experienced before when you come here. People are sick of the situation here, the lack of housing, the disgraceful poor health system, and you'd be just another one wanting to take accommodation from them and add to the years long list of medical waiting lists.

You've gotten good advice about trying a different area of Germany for living and for work or in neighbouring countries.

mykrodot · 19-05-2024 09:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122158264#Comment_122158264

you need money for everything in life! You dream of living a simple life in Ireland, that is not possible anymore! You are delusional , you have asked advice from Irish people yet you disregard everything we are saying.

Ok I will tell you my recent experience , my daughter is 30, has a university degree, has worked for Microsoft, Facebook, Emirates, British Airways and Mastercard. She returned to Ireland and is now living in a camper van!! She cannot get accommodation and this is in a very rural area, there is nothing available to rent anywhere.

2 years ago I sold my house and moved to a rural part of Ireland, closer to my 2 daughters. It took me over a year to get a doctor, any doctor to take me on.

Why do you want to live in Ireland? Have you been on a holiday here, is that it? Because that is not reality. Ireland is not full of lovely kind people willing to chat to you, it is not full of welcomes. People are busy, stressed and rude too here because they are finding life difficult and expensive. Just like in Germany!

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 09:13PM

I really don't want to stay in Germany. I don't like the country, culture or the language. Another part of Germany wouldn't change much.

And about other countries in Europe.. well I would only consider Netherlands, Sweden or Norway. But Norway is even more expensive. Even grocery prices are insane.

One thing I can say is that food and groceries are not very expensive in Ireland. I went to Lidl in Ireland and the prices are pretty much the same as Germany. Some things are even cheaper. I've seen it with my own eyes. Even Tesco has reasonable grocery prices. I think rent is the biggest problem in Ireland.

Rent in Norway is a bit cheaper, but grocery prices are insane. So Sweden would be better. I don't even speak swedish though. And we all know how hard it is to make friends in nordic countries. People there aren't as friendly and outgoing as they are in Ireland.

The best thing about Sweden is the nature.

So maybe Netherlands would be okay, but I heard the housing crisis there is just as bad as Ireland.

Deeper Blue · 19-05-2024 09:40PM

Grocery prices are not cheap in Ireland, I can assure you of that.

Waterfrog · 19-05-2024 10:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122158627#Comment_122158627

Not cheap, but reasonable. Pretty much the same as Germany and Netherlands. I mean I've seen the prices myself. I went to grocery stores in Ireland many times and there were a lot of things that were a bit cheaper than they are in Germany. But let's just same it's about the same. I personally don't think groceries are very expensive in Ireland. If you want to see expensive groceries go to Norway.

Even in the US groceries are much more expensiven than in Ireland.

L1011 · 19-05-2024 11:13PM

OP doesn't actually seem to want any of the answers they're getting, so this is pointless

Renting without a job

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