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Heavyweight Boxing

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  • #14462
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156249#Comment_122156249

    You think it be harder?

    Kind of a vibe here that Fury only lost because he didnt do this, that and other; as opposed to what Usyk did to earn a great win



  • #14463
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Wonder will he have his Dad and Lee in the corner for the rematch ?

    Seemed to be a lot of guys giving advice.



  • #14464
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    It's a one round fight. It could have gone either way , the rematch is the same

    Both guys looked brilliant at times last night Fury Bamboozled Usyk for 2 or 4 rounds in a row & hurt him multiple times with the lead upper cut , Usyk then had Fury in all sort of trouble & nobody would have c9mplained if it was stopped

    Both fighters are unbelievable last night Usyk came out on top a rematch is 50/50



  • #14465
    Charlie69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156249#Comment_122156249

    I thought he controlled the fight throughout to be honest, Fury is a good fighter with huge physical advantages so he was always going to have his moments in the fight and he definitely put Usyk under pressure at times but Usyk knew that too and knew how to ride it out … suck it up if you like. But there was only one fighter dictating things and that was the new undisputed champion. As someone said earlier Usyk “came on” as they say in the fight game in the later stages of the fight and won the championship rounds, I suppose that’s why I think he wins the rematch more convincingly.



  • #14466
    squinn2912
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122155944#Comment_122155944

    yea I think I had 1 and 12 drawn. Thought Fury maybe 11



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  • #14467
    squinn2912
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    @walshb you didn’t get agreement from me? I thought it was much clearer than aj 2 and Fury was in worse trouble than in aj 1. If he’d gone down on the canvass there I’m not sure he’d have been fit to get up. He did very well to negate in 10th



  • #14468
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156317#Comment_122156317

    me and you in agreement on the AJ 2 win compared to last night’s win



  • #14469
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,967 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156309#Comment_122156309

    did he win all the championship rounds, not sure that he did



  • #14470
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,967 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    I think that's always the case when a fight is close as it could have gone either way so you tend to question what the loser could have done differently



  • #14471
    GHendrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭GHendrix


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156257#Comment_122156257

    I think a rematch would still be 50 50. Maybe 55 45 to Usyk. But I certainly wouldn’t be betting big money on that fight!



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  • #14472
    squinn2912
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Some of the thoughts I’ve had one last night after watching back the entire card.

    Fury deserves credit and criticism. He did very well to hang in there in 9 and 10. His tactic of uppercut to head and body was successful. But other than the silly showboating he looked more than uncomfortable in there. He was roundly beaten. It’s very seldom you see a backpeddler winning a big fight. For all the sh1t we gave Joshua Fury had the same fear of gassing and didn’t really go for the win. 3-6 he gave it a bit of a go. Round 7 was the turning point but it’s not as though that big snout shot came from nowhere. John Fury did him no favours. Mouthy clown. He’d do well to leave him at home for the rematch. Sugarhill was a vexed looking man. Couldn’t get a word in without that idiot nonsensing. Fury didn’t go for broke to win, even in the 12th. Interview afterwards was pathetic. His footwork is gone and he is in decline.

    Usyk was sensational last night. He put himself in the fire time and time again, wore the leather and backed his reflexes. When he said after Chisora he would become undisputed I sniggered. Well FCUKING done! To think that but for the knockdown 10-8 round he’d have lost or drawn that fight is a disgrace. The rounds he won were almost all crystal clear and the ones you ‘could’ give Fury were more like 10-10s. He was a punch away from ending the fight and was never in anything like the same trouble himself. The guy is an ATG and is the best of this era. Hero.

    Wee word on Agit. What a guy!! Brilliant performance. I’m quite excited for what he might bring in the next few years. Sanchez looked far too pumped up and had no stamina. I expected better.



  • #14473
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    I actually think as well the ref was right to let Fury go on in round 9.

    Too big a fight to stop it. Let them go down and stay down.



  • #14474
    squinn2912
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156369#Comment_122156369

    He was borderline able to go on. Fair enough to give him the chance but he got it tight getting back to his corner. His performance in 10 and 11 was impressive. That could have gone badly wrong though.



  • #14475
    Dr.Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Id be willing to bet there will be no rematch



  • #14476
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156373#Comment_122156373

    Fury has no choice, he must avenge the only man who has beaten him.



  • #14477
    Dr.Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Of course he has a choice. You "activate" the rematch clause,it's not mandatory. Naseem Hamed comes to mind.



  • #14478
    Manc-Red_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Superb fight, had it as a draw myself but in fairness the brilliance of Rd9 from Usyk probably just edged it.

    Credit to Usyk, two weight warrior now that beat a man that looked likely to finish undefeated himself.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • #14479
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156386#Comment_122156386

    I am not saying it is mandatory.

    For his own legacy he has no choice.



  • #14480
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156335#Comment_122156335

    Yes. But not all. 2 judges gave him 2 of the 3 championship rounds, and one judge gave Fury 2 of the 3 championship rounds.



  • #14481
    Charlie69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156335#Comment_122156335

    For me he did… the last round could go either way but for me he won the fight clearly enough, I would go as far as to say that Usyk was probably expecting a tougher fight.

    Fury definitely didn't look himself or as confident in the lead up to this fight, I think he knew Usyk was not only a very good fighter but wasn't easily intimidated .



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  • #14482
    GHendrix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭GHendrix


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156373#Comment_122156373

    Fury has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Losing twice to the same opponent isn’t really anymore damaging than losing once.

    But win and it sets up a huge trilogy.

    If there’s no rematch it will be more likely because Usyk doesn’t want that again.



  • #14483
    squinn2912
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156401#Comment_122156401

    In those rounds they were certainly close but Fury if he did win them kinda nicked them with a few pot shots. He never went after it. Round 12 Usyk was the guy making it happen



  • #14484
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,233 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    AJ will now have wait, but I do not think he would beat either of these men



  • #14485
    Charlie69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156434#Comment_122156434

    Agreeed , for me Usyk was dictating things for sure.



  • #14486
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,838 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156373#Comment_122156373

    how much?



  • #14487
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122156434#Comment_122156434

    Exactky. Usyk won the fight mainly off desire and passion and making it happen. He’s so admirable. Fury lost because Usyk was very good, and because Fury was not near authoritative enough.

    Post edited by walshb on


  • #14488
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Does the rematch, if it happens, have to take place in Saudi Arabia?

    Anyone else a pain in their bo%*x with Saudi and these events/fights?

    Bring it to England, and create a really proper vibe/buzz



  • #14489
    LetticebCivil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭LetticebCivil


    I had Usyk up by 2 by the end. Great fight. Really enjoyable heavyweight contest. In normal circumstances Fury would have been waved off by the ref. Fury has some skill for a big man. Usyk is an incredible boxer too.



  • #14490
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Rematch unlikely for October

    Usyk has a broken jaw,

    he won but Fury gave him his toughest fight to date & clearly hurt him on multiple occasions



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  • #14491
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,022 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Just looking at fine margins, had Usyk managed to get one clean shot on Fury just before referee stepped in, I reckon Fury absolutely gone!!!



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