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General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I can understand wolves submitting this. They were absolutely screwed over by VAR this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Aren't these based on the same charges from UEFA? Except now City don't have the benefit of running to CAS and there's no time barred possibility.

    You'd expect that the reason this is taking so long is that the Premier league are getting all their ducks in a row.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,244 ✭✭✭golfball37


    please God that vote is passed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,972 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    There's nothing wrong with VAR the technology but absolute state of the way it's used in the PL is awful.

    I've said it before but there should be tech guys running the system and not refs backing up their buddies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭YTM


    Should vote instead to replace the incompetent officials in England.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,005 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Arsenal, United and Newcastle have spent more on transfers than City over the last five years.

    Over the last ten United spent most followed by City.

    There is no excuse for United not being able to compete with City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    VAR was a mistake from the very beginning, and all the bullshit that it brought was predicted to happen. Twiddle the knobs all you want, subjective decisions will remain subjective and nothing is going to change that simple fact.

    Hopefully they see sense and bin the damn thing, but frankly it is demoralising that so many could not see the inherent flaws in the very concept to begin with.

    They destroyed the moment of joy that came from a goal being scored and for what? A **** tech demo that could never work anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,796 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    The UEFA system works very well tbh. This is an English issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    I don't really cere that much for VAR but I guarantee the people who want VAR gone will be the first ones moaning about the lack of VAR when a bad decision goes against their team next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭McFly85


    VAR was never meant to make sure that decisions become objective, it’s a human process that gives referees more information on potentially game changing decisions, no more than that. If a referees call isn’t obviously incorrect then just stick with the referees decision, it’s simple and works well in other sports.

    But the implementation in the PL is awful, and more importantly, it has shown just how weak referees in the PL are. They really struggle with following the process at a basic level. New rules are followed for a week or 2 before a ref forgets to do it, then it just stops being followed. VAR either goes missing or spends 5 minutes looking at the same footage. If they get a call wrong their first instinct is to go on the defensive instead of learning from it.

    Removing VAR doesn’t address the root cause and will result in more bad calls.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    There's no doubt city have in the main spent well and have some superb structures at the club however the the planet sized asterisk to all that is that without being artificially inflated financially by a petrostate they'd be in a similar space to the likes of Brentford, Norwich, Fulham et al.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Since I wasn't one to moan about decisions before VAR I can guarantee you I wouldn't be moaning about them after VAR either.

    Which you will probably ignore and just pretend that you are talking about some imaginary other people who are against VAR, which just makes your big claim unprovable nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    And even on the fee - Haaland's transfer fee doesn't include the ~35 million pound agent fee, so the actual cost of the transfer was more like 90 million pounds (and there was even reports of an additional hefty chunk of cash for Alfe Haaland on top of that too), in addition to the astronomical wages you mention.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Elsewhere, I see Casemiro is starting at CB again after a series of high profile errors… bold move!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,900 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I don't understand why you keep defending Man City when you claim to not be a Man City supporter.

    You keep parroting this line about other clubs spending more on transfers, like Pep done recently, but 68 of the 115 charges are literally about Man City's failure to provide accurate financial details such as how much they are paying players, transfer fees & sponsorship revenues.

    Why do you believe what Man City are saying when UEFA & the PL did not & do not?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Why can’t the ref just decide I’d like to see that again without any input of opinion by var. Var can make a call if something is completely missed. Offside should stay as it’s clear cut. England just have implemented it badly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    They could do with getting some tech companies involved to sponsor/showcase their technology, having someone like Samsung providing a lightweight 'wearable' screen, and EE providing a connection to be able to view replays wirelessly. Those two aspects are such huge parts of each of their marketing that if it worked, it would be great PR/advertising.

    A ref being able to quickly look at a replay would be a game changer for VAR.

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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The ref shouldn't have to see it again if someone is up in a box with replays. It's ridiculous. That process around the on field screen etc is farcical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,796 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    The idea that the EPL will not have VAR while FIFA, UEFA and major European leagues do is quite hilarious, and in keeping with general trends in British society over the last decade or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭jacool


    Blatant penalty for Newcastle, but VAR didn't see it. What a joke.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,229 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Thought he was clearly clipped, causing him to fall. Casemiro's tackle was good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,328 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Who is working the VAR machine, Mr Magoo?? How do they miss these incidents?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,328 ✭✭✭Glebee


    And now Brighton denied a definite penalty...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭jacool


    He was.Sky zoomed in on his sock, totally ripped at the Achilles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,820 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    United are so easy to score against



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Have to grudgingly admit that Anthony Gordon is a player.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,900 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    He's come on an awful lot over the last 12 months or so. Especially in terms of end product. He had the workrate previously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,905 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Newcastle should be ahead. 3 on 1 break. I think Gordon gave that ball too early. The shot is then partially blocked by Amrabat and onto the crossbar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,905 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    And now Newcastle have paid the penalty for that glaring miss. It's atrocious defending from Newcastle's perspective as well. Diallo was completely free.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,166 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Cracking finish from Amad… you'd wonder why he's not been playing a lot more, given the lack of quality in his position.

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