Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (Mod warning, see OP updated 10/05 and post #3477 11/05)

From a purely musical point of view, finding it hard to see why Hurricane is 2nd favourite… it's totally fine, she has a nice voice, but it's quite generic and bland. Feels like a song I've heard a thousand versions of before in past Eurovisions.

Even just this year, Serbia, Portugal, and Slovenia etc with quite similar fare. Slovenia being my favourite of that subcategory I think, doing something a little different at times at least.

Agreed - I could name at least TEN songs in tomorrow’s final that are far better. Even limiting the group to solo female singers, she would be down the list.

Ya but we are pulling from a very shallow pool.

"…skin of her teeth" Considering the semi results are secret until after the final, how exactly does the Liberal know that Bambie qualified by the skin of their teeth? They were called ninth, but that doesn't mean they finished ninth. Bambie could have been in the top 3 with the public.

** Before anyone says anything, I used "her" because that's what the headline says…I know that's incorrect.

https://www.thejournal.ie/eurovision-ebu-svt-israel-performance-sound-issues-6376520-May2024/

For sure, we wholeheartedly believe EBU/SVT?

“The EBU and SVT encourage all audiences to attend in the spirit of the Contest, embracing its values of inclusivity, celebrating diversity and being United By Music.”

I hope everyone votes for Netherlands.

Top 10 is definitely possible, but tbh after a couple of very bad years for Ireland at Eurovision, I'm taking just being there on Saturday night as a win.

It's riged, Croatia the best tune ,followed by Bambi ,No way Europe voted for Israel, joke of a competition now .this will be the end tomorrow if Israel win ,as everyone will realise its a joke .

turning into a bit of a mess by the EBU, voting has been delayed now, so us “world people” have less time!

Best of luck to Bambie. I am so intrigued to see how the juries will rate Ireland. I have a feeling Bambie could do better with them than people think.

Linda Martin famously won for Ireland in Malmo in 1992, can Bambie do the same?

A lot of strange coincidences between ESC in the early 90s when Linda won and ESC over the last few years.

1990-94

ESC took place against seismic global events that directly impacted the contest (End of Cold War, break up of USSR, disintegration of Yugoslavia)

First ESC of the Decade (1990) was won by Italy with France finishing in 2nd place. (Jointly with Ireland)

Italy hosted a famously shambolic show the following year. Gigliolina Cinquetti was a host. The winner that year (Sweden) had a blue and yellow flag.

Sweden won a highly controversial victory with a female soloist (Carola) on her second time participating at the contest. Many people felt the runner-up (France) should have won. Israel finished 3rd and a Mediterranean (Spain) male soloist finished 4th with a ballad.

UK finished 2nd in 1992 and 1993

Sonia performed 'Better the devil you know' for the UK in 1993

Luxembourg did not take part after 1993

2020-24

ESC took place against seismic global events that directly impacted the contest (Covid, Ukraine, Gaza)

First ESC of the decade (2021) was won by Italy with France finishing in 2nd place.

Italy hosted a famously shambolic show (The black hole sun) with Gigliolina Cinquetti as an interval act. The winner that year (Ukraine) had a blue and yellow flag.

In 2023 Sweden won a highly controversial victory with a female soloist (Loreen) on her second time participating at the contest. Many people felt the runner up (Finland) should have won. Israel finished 3rd and Mediterranean (Italy) male soloist finished 4th with a ballad

UK finished 2nd in 2022.

Sonia performed 'Better the devil you know' when the UK hosted in 2023 as part of interval act.

Luxembourg announced their return to the contest in 2023, returning in 2024.

Even aside from all the non-musical aspects of this years competition, just having an interesting - and frankly much better - song in the competition makes it much easier to buy into. I think even people who don't like it can recognise that there's a lot going on in the track both musically and performatively… like, it feels like there's actually a bit of artistic endeavour in there.

Musical taste is obviously always subjective, often with more complex things (jazz, metal, even classical etc) being more niche, but thankfully judging by all the interest across Europe it seems more people are getting something out of it than aren't, which is all ya can ever ask for really.

Therein lies the beauty of subjective art. One man's garbage is another man's gold.

(Personally it's not exactly the sort of thing i'd normally listen to, but I quite like it - and love the whole brooding balletic production package. And I feel oddly proud that we've sent something more interesting).

It's probably a misunderstanding of the rules and they think they came second last in the vote.

I think the song is brilliant. And I heard the song before I ever saw any of the visual aspects to the performance…

Chalk and cheese I guess….