Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

You're right, let them sleep on the streets and in the ditches during the summer. In winter we can provide tents. That way, the message might get through via their excellent networking systems.

And it's utterly laughable about the green leafy banks of the Grand Canal being emptied at the behest of local well monied residents associations whilst they are then dumped with no warning on various other communities.

Are these next wave of accommodations Roderic is promising tented fields or hotels?

The man can't complete a sentence he's so afraid of himself

Ah sure, I'll pop down to the green leafy canal tomorrow and take a few pics. It's not the idyll you all seem to think it is.

Taking money off the taxpayers to outbid the taxpayers is the sort of thing that would be called fraud or maybe some sort of protection racket if anyone other than public bodies were doing it

He was given a super soft interview yesterday on the 1 o'clock news -

It was pre-recorded and this horrible image came into my head of Gavin Jennings standing behind Roderic giving him a shoulder massage saying 'you're doing great Rod' as Rodders waffles and stutters his way through it - Starts at 09:00 mins

Then Gavin starts playing hard ball with the shinner, getting thick and putting the boot in at 20:00 mins

Guess who's in Government Gavin? It's not SF! - RTE are not even trying to be subtle any more

Paying one group of people to give out tents and another group of people to take down said tents

Hey it's an increase in GDP.

Makes about as much sense as paying one group of people to dig holes and another group fill them in

the housing figures will be up too… 80 new homes delivered (in Crooksling for illegal economic migrants and the odd successful asylum applicant. )

I expect the supposition was to demean both women and people whom the poster considers liberal thinking.

As for the waffle in your post.

Are you suggesting that people who do liberal arts stop developing mentally at 15?

Both your post and the other post are classic examples of othering.

You both seem to be trying weaken the other side in your own opinion by assigning negative traits that are based on nothing more than fantasy thought on your part.

All liberal people do this ..

All liberal people think this...

Which easily then leads to you thinking

All the faults I see are caused by them.

Even when it was the Nazis I always knew it was the liberals.

Ah stop. The hole is nearly all the way to China already.

So children from all over the country who complete their leaving cert to a sufficient level to attain acceptance to third level education are not all the same.

Because if they choose what you consider arts degree at 18 that means they stopped developing at the same rate as their peers at 15 who completed their leaving cert but didn't choose the same pathway?

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In my opinion anyone who truly held such a belief would have to be an absolute idiot!

The one in clonmel is beside a halting site where the residents warned not to place asylum seekers as there would be trouble so that may not be a good idea.

I thought travellers were all for inclusivity and equality? I thought that would be an ideal location?

I'd say you might be surprised. In the long term such a policy would almost certainly discourage bogus asylum seekers from coming here and it would be preferable to paying 627 million a year to hotel owners to house them.

I'm sorry but they are aspirational and they are not within our own power — this does not make them impossible, nor does the acknowldgement of the difficulty of achieving them equate to "capitulation". You talk as if I don't advocate international migration agreements, when you need only go back through my posts to see that I do. But they require things that we cannot fully control — the lasting co-operation and conformity by the counterparty country. Deals won't always work out as things change — wars and disasters occur, economies crumble, the other country reneges on its bargains, our neighbouring countries don't co-operate with us — and all manner of other things.

This is part of the reason there will never be a definitive solution. There will only ever be measures of varying effectiveness — and there is going to be lots of failure. That doesn't mean we capitulate — it means we stay realistic in order to refine and reform approaches when we can, in ways that can be done. Call it deluded rationale if you want. If you wish to convince yourself that there is a realistic future that doesn't involve some degree of acceptance that there will be surges in illegal migration and refugee numbers from time to time — then I can assure you that you will spend the rest of your life waiting for it.