Deposit return scheme (recycling)

There are been significant prices increases across the board since February in bottled drinks. But totally unrelated to DRS......bin charges are also going up, again totally unrelated to DRS........

Not nearly as significant as caused by Russia going into Ukraine. Soda water up from 25 cent to 75 cent, unless you want to go premium with Schweppes, over 2 Euro. Back down to 69 cents in recent times.

As you well know, USC is just another name for some pre-existing levies which were combined.

The I'm alright Jack's of this world tend not to be too bothered thinking of the problems of others though.

This scheme was ill-conceived, but I could get over that if it wasn't so poorly executed. There must be very good information on how many containers are sold, so why can't the machine emptying schedule match the demand? Is the only on-site storage in the machine itself, or do they have additional on-site storage for when it fills up?

It really doesn't sound too difficult.

The machines near me are nearly always full or out of order and my local supervalu doesn't accept returns at the till. It's not a huge inconvenience to have large bags of empties in my kitchen and in the boot of my car, but it is annoying especially when there was a perfectly workable system in place just a few months ago.

Of course you can still put the containers in your recycling bin for collection, but that could cost you a few euros a week, which not everyone can afford.

Some alternatives:

1. Go back to the old system of blue bin collection (obviously not going to happen now with the sunk investment in Re-Turn)
2. Double down — increase the deposits significantly to say €1.50 per container and wait for some market-driven solutions to emerge, e.g. a shift by industry to glass or paper containers, or for private collection services to emerge

The Lucozade bottle on sale in NI pictured in post #5057 has a Re-Turn logo. I honestly can't make out what the piece below from their website means, but it could be that it will not get a refund from a machine in Ireland? And of course I have no way of knowing where yours was bought.

"International (shared) Barcode
This is defined as a barcode that is used in ROI along with another jurisdiction. This barcode
will be registered for DRS with Re-turn and may be subject to surcharges in addition to
material specific producer fees due to the additional fraud risk associated with their usage."

You're pulling numbers out of context and completely misrepresenting them.

Youll note that has nothing to do with the point I am making.

Do you think that recent significant price increases in items under this scheme are done under the cover of this scheme?

You'll always feel out numbered when your opinion goes against fact.

I am confused by that 5 million, because all the media outlets report that they are mostly on-the-go containers, and only getting 23% recycling. In my case 100% of the containers I buy are brought home.

"At present, our recycling rate for 'on-the-go' bottles is only 23 per cent. We must get this to 90 per cent by 2029 to meet our European recycling targets," the department added".

Again, the term recycling should be replaced with "collected" - to be fair I make the same mistake regularily.

5m mentioned in 5th paragraph.

So roughly 450m containers since Feb 1st, 74m collected. 16% collection rate through rvm's. Money for jam:-)

Based on that report he collection rate is awful but the amount of containers sold since the 1st February is a really scary figure. And we're a tiny country with a relatively good water supply.

Today was the 1st time I ran into annissue using the machine. Kept rejecting the little fruit shot bottles. In the head in just fired one in and it took it after rejecting it 3 times. Seems to be a nack of firing those little bottles in hard and it takes it

when is a treat not a treat?

I have a Circle K card, which entitles to to points everytime I fill up. I accumulate the points and when the monthly prize is money I play. By playing it also entitles me to a treat the following month. It’s usually a bottle of water & an energy bar.

This is all coming to an end later this month. They are having multiple prizes to finish the monthly draw. I played last month & got the email entitling me to a ‘treat’. I filled up today, went to pay for the fuel & asked do I want the treat. I said yes, but the cashier then said I must pay 15c for the water. I didnt bother. But where does this madness end?