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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    All Leinster rugby fans were and most Irish rugby fans were. Minority of teenage boys weren't, they'd rather any Irish team lose despite their team being out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭Cork29


    current centre partnership is blossoming, what where you watching out there?

    Leinster in general were rubbish, only beat a team that could only just about make at most 2 pass before a knock on.

    This Leinster side are soft as hot butter, the best rugby club squad the world has ever seen and still so bad with 3 weeks to focus on the game.

    its time the cotton wool was taken off the Irish players, they should have all been down in South Africa try and knock the softness out of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Leinster bring their La Rochelle performance to the final and it's a fifth star.

    Bring today's performance and they'll get ripped apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Doris obviously was goated today with the turnover at the end to save our arse but I’ve always felt that Leinster need a second jackler option, someone like Tadhg Beirne who can come in handy when we need to stop the momentum of the opposition. JVDF is not a proper jackal threat. It would really put us up another level, there’s a Scott Fardy sized hole missing there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Doris obviously was goated today with the turnover at the end to save our arse but I’ve always felt that Leinster need a second jackler option, someone like Tadhg Beirne who can come in handy when we need to stop the momentum of the opposition. JVDF is not a proper jackal threat. It would really put us up another level, there’s a Scott Fardy sized hole missing there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    A bit closer than I expected it to be. Northampton are a good side, and were always going to score, I just expected Leinster to score more. In the end, I fancied a home win near the spread, which I think was 12 or so points.

    There was definite signs of rust, mostly early handling errors, and you'd expect those to be remedied by the final.

    But I also don't think today's Leinster performance is necessarily one that Toulouse would rip apart. That's somewhat a disservice to Saints. Once they stopped spilling ball they really did cause Leinster problems, and defended very aggressively themselves.

    The name of the game in a final against Toulouse (presuming that's the case) will be to frustrate Dupont, and keep possession away from him. Could see LC/JN leaning selection toward their better carriers in the back-row i.e., Conan, vdF and Doris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    I really don't get people are saying that Ringrose needs to be brought in for the final. He hasn't played in months and almost certainly won't play with his midfield partner between now and the final. I thought both centres today have been very good for a while now and the partnership between them is bearing fruit. Ringrose does everything to a very high standard but I don't think he does anything that amazing that he should be brought straight in.

    Keenan on the other hand is simply far better than the other options at 15. Hopefully he can get some match sharpness back over the next couple of weeks. Frawley did well overall today but Keenan brings so much more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Agree with the Ringrose take. He's been unlucky to have missed out. He surely doesn't come right back in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Next week v Ospreys is a fairly big match, imo. We've got to pound them. 5 points are needed and I hope Leo doesn't go with a weak team. I'm hoping Ringrose is back and I expect J.O.B to start. HB should get the nod and I'd risk Kelleher starting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I don't think starting Kelleher is a risk. He needs game time. I would start a mix of front liners and second string. Ospreys at home should be a straightforward one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Cullen in his post match press conference said he'll be selecting strong sides for the two URC games in the lead up to the Champions Cup final.

    I'm glad to hear it. Leinster looked very well drilled defensively today, but were crabbing across the pitch in attack quite a lot. The three week break for much of the squad definitely affected their on pitch prowess in attack.

    I imagine they'll split their selection for the next few fixtures to give everyone enough preparation for the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭scott1974


    Was that incident mentioned on TV looked blatant at the game..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    I disagree. Ringrose is two levels up. People have short memories. If he's fit, he plays. No question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Just seen a few clips of the game. Have to laugh at the TNT commentary.

    Dallaglio and Healey were screaming for a Leinster side entry at the ruck, but the footage shows two Northampton players piling in at the side before Jenkins entry which I'm pretty sure was legal anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I see an article saying Deegan is going to Ulster.

    Is it true or clickbait guff?

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster-no-8-max-deegan-to-switch-provinces/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Would anyone argue for Osborne to start ahead of Ringrose for ireland?

    I like Osborne, but the idea that he should start ahead of Ringrose is based on fairness of play time rather than contribution to the game. Ringrose is the better player and should start when he's fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,965 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I think the debate is between Henshaw and Ringrose. I feel Osborne is a better 12 than Henshaw, although obviously still massively inexperienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    that’s rubbish he was player of the match against LaRoch so let’s not be so fickle given he has so tirelessly added to our European credentials



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,066 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    That was stressful. Leinster wilted in the second half but contained Furbank a lot better than Ireland or Scotland did in the 6N. I wondered whether the Leinster defence got away with a few offsides. Was Doris over the try line before Lowe’s second try? He looked close. What a player JGP has become. He always seems to have time to burn on the ball. It is fitting that the two leading scrum halves in our part of the world might meet in the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Osborne did nothing wrong but I fail to see how anyone thinks he should start ahead of either Henshaw or Ringrose. Henshaw is a bigger man and often gets across the gain line when being hit by two tacklers, Osborne is much slighter. He has a great left foot but Leinster have that already. His real point of difference for me is his line running, which is excellent, and his off loads which are also very good. He’s definitely next off the rank but I’d still back Henshaw at 12 and GR at 13.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Mad to think a few weeks back Leinster and Sharks were top and bottom of the league but Sharks are .ore lively to win a trophy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    I'd say people have long memories when it comes to Ringrose. He's an excellent player, particularly in defence, but hasn't been a game changer for a while now. He rarely makes mistakes but doesn't do anything amazing either. He seems to be the latest in the line of players in Ireland who seem to get elevated to undropable status yet I doubt other top teams would want him over their existing options or spend time looking to negate him ahead of playing against him.

    Osborne has shown he can put others through gaps with passing on the line, runs excellent lines to find gaps himself and he looks to offload out of the tackle. Henshaw's power is a big asset, he challenges in the air unlike most centres and he and Osborne swapping positions adds variation in attack. As a partnership, they compliment each other and seem to bring the best out of each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭conquestscarer


    I agree. Watching him the last two seasons I've seen a lot of flaws in his game that just get excused. He makes plenty of mistakes on D.

    I don't think Osborne is the one to drop for London.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭conquestscarer


    We just got to the final, hardly a guarantee we aren't winning a trophy this year ffs.



  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Lia Sweet Racist


    That’s a nonsense comparison.

    They’re more likely to win a Mickey Mouse trophy. You think Sharks think they’re in a better position or wouldn’t swap with Leinster in a heartbeat?



  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Lia Sweet Racist


    Got extremely sloppy and loose in the second half. We had completely stifled them in the first and they were getting frustrated, and then in the second we kicked a lot of aimless deep kicks to just hand them possession and a chance to run back.

    As others have mentioned, the subs, particularly taking off JVDF (who was brilliant) were too early and changed Leinster’s shape too much.

    Feel like if Leinster scored the third before half time or had gotten a fourth on the board, they’d have kicked on and won by 30+ but made it needlessly tight at the end.

    Still - semis are for winning. On to the final.



  • Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭ Lia Sweet Racist


    Should have mentioned - atmosphere in Croker was immense and really enjoyable experience. Crowd were passionate and loud throughout.

    Great to see so many stay in the stadium to applaud both teams off the field too.

    Final word for the Northampton fans who were all absolutely top class yesterday - have always had a soft spot for them as a club because they play great rugby and found their fans to be classy following what must have been devastating circumstances losing the final in 2011, and they 100% demonstrated that again yesterday.

    If they keep their young core together and can add a few more pieces they’ll be a dangerous proposition in a year or so, they’ve got some really talented players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The amount of kicking in the second half was infuriating. When your opponents only really attacking advantage is running from deep, why would you just keep punting it to them,?

    Agree with above comment re hooking VDF early, seemed like a preplanned switch but ultimately it hurt us.

    Conversely, Ross Byrne was left on too long. He wasn’t playing well and looked to be carrying an injury.

    Hopefully that’s the dirty diesel burnt off and we can focus on the final now.

    On the plus side, JGP is absolutely unplayable these days, Frawley is doing an excellent job at FB and Baird continues to get better and better.

    Five finals in seven years, it’s an incredible stat.

    But if we could get one of the injured trio back for the final, I’d pick Ryan every time. We need more leadership and grizzle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Final word for the Northampton fans who were all absolutely top class yesterday

    No, they were garbage. Yet in typical Leinster/Ireland fashion, Leinster nearly imploded against them and laboured to victory in what should have been a 40 point win.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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