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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    People love to some form of a disorder these days and doesn't matter how mild it may be they'll wear it like some kind of badge of honour. Social media is the worst for it, people making it their whole personality. It's bizzare



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Some people are using being on the spectrum, ADHD or ADD as an excuse for being arseholes. Some other people instead of owning the fact they like order and tidiness they hide behind some invented diagnosis of OCD without realising how bad that condition actually is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd most likely fall into the category of somebody that lives a pretty normal life. However, my teenage life was pretty atrocious in part due to a lack of any diagnosis. Most of my personal issues are unknown to those around me. I pretty much almost gave my self a nervous breakdown due to exhausting myself from masking. I'll tell people I trust about it but that's largely it but it's been pretty important for me to understand how to look after myself and accept aspects of self that I tried to reject.

    And I don't think anyone is lumping in all forms of autism together. The point is that it can largely manifest in different ways and openness about it means that people who do need supports can get them. Cause less extreme points on the spectrum can be incredibly difficult in their own way. Fyi, McClean got his diagnosis after his daughter's cause he had suspicions as a result.

    Overall I'm not sure what impact it has upon you or anyone else. But for the people on the spectrum, it can be pretty important to identify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭cms88


    They're the perfect Armchair Republican. They give it but don't like when it's given back. As someone has said they pass it off as ''Irish Culture''



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    That's fair enough.

    I suppose my post is about the people who with almost a sense of pride saying "I'm on the spectrum" as if it's an achievement.I just think there has been a fetisisation of autism like conditions where people are almost happy to have so they can appear like a more interesting individual.

    One of my cousins hasn't stopped blabbing on about "since I got my diagnosis" when there is essentially nothing really wrong with her.

    I suspect a very high proportion of people would be on the Autism spectrum if they got tested for it but most people don't even get tested. I have a lot of traits associated with mild forms of autism as I've noticed over the years and I suspect I could be diagnosed with autism as well (like my cousin above) if I went to be tested for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Newstalk interviewed one of them the other day about them playing the main stage at electric picnic, yer one Andrea Gilligan was having a great laugh with the guy, you would think it was Daniel O Donnell she was interviewing, and Newstalk would be all over any republican violence, condemning it but lets interview this guy whose whole life is singing sectarian songs and Andrea talking like its a great thing they are so popular now. 🤦‍♂️

    "ooh ah up the RA" "oh that doesn't mean we like the IRA" , "its just graffiti I saw on a wall", oh yeah sure.

    so if the singer from wolf tones saw up the UFF graffitied on a wall, would the song have been ooh ah up the UFF ooh ah up the UFF, come on everybody sing along now ooh ah up the UFF ohh ah up the UFF.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,031 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I don't hold it against them. I presume they felt a bit different all their lives and couldn't figure out why they didn't quite fit in. They have jobs and friends and partners, and still didn't experience the world the way most people do. That must be difficult, particularly the early years and adolescence.

    And then they find an explanation for not quite experiencing the world the way most people do and it must be a massive relief.

    I presume a lot of them thought they were failing in adolescence when everyone is figuring themselves out so they get a second chance to figure themselves out later in life. It's not unusual to talk about something something that significant in your life. And I imagine they'll settle and not talk about it so much a few years after figuring themselves out.

    I'll never experience what they went through so I'm just guessing TBH. But I can't hold it against them. People have different experiences.

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That's pretty much my experience, it can effectively be an identity crisis for a person to be unable to understand why they find a lot of traditional things far more difficult while feeling like you never fit in. So there's a lot of baggage around finding something out like that in later life is a lot for the average person to process and for the average autistic person, it's a lot more.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,627 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    its ridiculous that Gardaí aren’t armed , with at least Tazers . Watching ITN news where a man with a samurai / knife, killing a 13 yo .While it’s not Ireland it took 22minutes to tazer him . If faced with a psychotic or mentally ill person doing the same in Ireland what can an unarmed garda to but tackle him with no weapon or call for backup from armed units. Ireland has moved on from the days when a firm warning from a Garda will suffice



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Never understood what the issue was wit pjamas. As long as they covered up.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    If the shoe was on the other foot, if you had a band playing Loyalist sectarian tunes that would be roundly criticised and cancelled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    That would be a great name for a tribute band!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭fortwilliam


    Nonsense… this is just normal life.


    "my teenage life was pretty atrocious" - Every teenager ever..

    "Most of my personal issues are unknown to those around me." - Again, - Every teenager ever..

    "I'll tell people I trust about it " - Don't, they don't care about your feelings.

    Do you understand that a "Diagnosis" is only an opinion?

    Make the most of your life and stop looking for reasons (that it's not your fault) it's not as good as you expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I don't think you have any right to comment on if I have autism firstly. Secondly, maybe you should cop on a little bit and not comment on an individuals lived experience that you have no knowledge of. It's ignorant as ****. You don't know me. Bye now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    Israel is by far the lesser of two evils in comparison to Islamic fundamentalist jihadists like Hamas and Hezbollah, and has an infinitely better way of life than what any Islamic country will ever offer, and is ultimately right to see this as a war of survival as the Palestinians have no interest in peace.

    And that Irish people siding with Hamas and Hezbollah or chanting "From the River to the Sea" are too stupid to realise they're actually advocating for genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,031 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I don't see a particularly good guy between isreal, Iran, saudi. I certainly don't see any of them as countries I would want to support.

    And I don't think I'd have a lot in common with the Palestinian people. I imagine our outlooks would be quite different.

    But that's not how I decide what's right and wrong. The Palestinians deserve autonomy. I couldn't tell you of they want peace because they haven't had equality. They've been oppressed and people who are oppressed are entitled (maybe even obliged?) to fight back.

    So to say they don't want peace is untestable in history so far. The same was said of Ireland before we got independance. It turns out we didnt want war, we just wanted to not be oppressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,031 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Harsh. If someone tells me they have a diagnosis I generally just take them at their word. I don't ask for a note from their oncologist or whatever other medical professional.

    What difference does it make anyway? You don't treat people with an autism diagnosis differently, they are the ones who have been adapting their behaviour all their lives. It only takes a small bit of empathy for others to get along just fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    There would be no Hamas if it was not for the actions of Israel

    Hamas is a militant group Israel is a country , so surely you'd expect that country to be more humane & show better ethics,

    Once gain there would be no Hezbollah if not for the actions of Israel ,

    You'd want to be a bit mad to invade, occupy & persecute a group of people & then get upset & seem shocked when they fight back ,

    For the record i'm not pro anyone i just want it all to stop .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I disagree,
    Do you really think arming all the Garda in this country is a good idea ? Do you know many Garda would you trust them to have guns & make the correct calls,

    How many people would be shot over stupid incidents , How many Garda would get shot by there own weapons,, How many ordinary criminals would suddenly decide they must arm themselves with guns,

    Sounds great in theory but would be a nightmare in practise ,

    The amount of training to arm all the Garda & to keep them skilled would be insane,

    Having ERU is fine for a country of our size right now , More ERU officers is the way to go not arming all Garda ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    There are plenty of armed Gardaí in the country. In most 24 hour stations, at least one Guard has a gun on them, usually a detective. Then you have the ARU and the likes.

    What I'd give the rank and file is more training in hand to hand combat to safely take down people engaging in violent action. It's not even about having the ability to do so, martial arts requires a lot of personal discipline and physical fitness, which wouldn't be the worst things to add to the force.

    Maybe have two regular Guards per district armed at all times just in case of something and Gardaí having to complete mandatory firearms training every year, and have a small armoury of 25-30 guns depending on the area held in 24 hour stations for use in exceptional events only. That's only if we had to increase the gun presence in the force.

    But guns on the streets? No.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Have contributed money to the Palestinian side and this has been a waste.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭crusd


    Except its not the case. Global demographic data indicates that with current trends global population will start to decline this century and more recent projections could start this process as early as 2050 as birth rates in developing countries have started to fall. By over correcting now we risk a massive demographic hole in future generations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    On the other hand, the Ayn Rand Institute UK YouTube channel clearly has an openly snarky sneering and unhelpful in any way attitude to the conflict.

    https://www.youtube.com/%40AynRandInstitute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭crusd


    Israel actively facilitated the dominance of Hamas in Gaza as a means of dividing Palestine as the last thing they wanted was a functioning Palestinian authority under Fatah.

    Hamas's goal in October to to provoke exactly this type of reaction and are likely delighted with the invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭crusd


    I personnally think folks who believe they know what impacts a particular issue may have on an individuals ability to live their lives without making any effort to understand the individual are the gobshites but what do I know

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    We don't need to hear about their personal life, though.There has been an epidemic of oversharing of peoples personal lives in recent years in order to gain praise from people on the internet.

    Also if we were to live by the standards you outline above there would be no "controversial opinions" thread on this site and also nobody would be allowed to comment on anything as really nobody actually knows what going on in anybody's life really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And plenty of people would have slipped through the gaps for diagnosis over the decades. So increased awareness will lead to others pursuing diagnoses and will give them a general better of understanding of themselves. And not limited to autism. Eg people who never realised they were dyslexic or had ADHD etc. Often those people were ignored or treated as if they were dumb/lost cause in the educational system.

    So all those people sharing their personal experiences might annoy you but much of the time it can help others. So the net impact upon you is pretty minimal in the scheme of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭17togo


    I think the exact opposite, any Irish people siding with Israel on this are the stupid ones. Or they're just consuming too much American News. I get why America is on their side because a large portion of all the big companys, banks are controlled by Jewish people.

    I'm surprised how many people that are backing Israel over here didn't actually know that Israel was only created after the war. How can people not see that what happened to Palestinian people since then wasn't going to lead to something like this is beyond me. I don't think any Irish people are siding with Hamas, they're siding with Palestine. Two different things. There'd be no Hamas if Israel had treated Palestine fairly since they were gifted a country. You can't ignore the similarities what Ireland went through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    I read somebody comparing the current situation in Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto during ww2, except now Israel is Germany and Palestinians are the jews. He was spot on with the similarities.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,031 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Posting your opinion on social media for the world to see, complaining about people oversharing these days.

    Can I assume you've completely missed the irony?



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