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GCN+ is dead

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭devonp


    do you have to have an active nowtv sub to see the Discovery+ on the stick ?, have the stick but not subbed at present cannot see D+ ..can see NetF etc ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I don't know (as we have several NowTV subs), but I doubt it. Should be in the apps to install? It was on AppleTV, and I've no sub for that.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    I've always assumed GCN+ was some kind of spin-off from Eurosport that had some kind of deal with them to broadcast the live content and then added content for a dedicated cycling audience. I may be wrong but that would lead me to assume that the move to Poland is the youtube GCN stuff but I would still expect studio coverage from Eurosport. We'll see for sure come Milan San Remo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    I doubt the Youtube content is going anywhere since all the creators are based around Bath. GCN was originally a Youtube based cycling channel, which was then eventually ended up as part of the Discovery network and GCN+ was the online platform for streaming races. The breakaway etc is more of a Eurosport product with Dan Lloyd as part of the presenting team.

    TNT Sports which is not BT/Eurosport will be Warsaw based for studios. As I have seen Brian O'Driscoll travel there for rugby coverage. So I'm presuming it will be the same scenario for the breakaway show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭nilhg


    The breakaway is back already with coverage from the UAE women's tour yesterday and today, I'm pretty sure Orla C had a story on inst about a long trip to Warsaw during the week so I'm presuming that's where the studio content is coming from.


    https://www.instagram.com/p/C3FXt4CMTGi/



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    If your content with catch ups, Lanterne Rouge on YouTube covers alot and seems to have the rights for official clips for alot of races.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I can't see Sean Kelly travelling all the way to Warsaw to be on the Breakaway!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    He’s not cycling there! Only an extra hour on a flight for him.

    Will be interesting to see how they handle the GT days as they’d often have the GCN lads do pre show, then a bit of commentary to give Hatch etc a break and then back in the studio. Same with the likes of McEwan etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭Junior


    So going back a few years ago, pre GCN, Eurosport got **** with their line up. If you remember we had odd people coming in for the Monuments, and coverage dipped for a while. They were trying not to get into a situation like they had with David Harmon when he walked. So they've been rotating main comms people with a while, and the co-commentator as well. It was also a cost cutting measure.

    With the advent of Covid, they are no longer sending dedicated comms teams to the big races, they are keeping the main comms remote, and having the likes of Robbie, Sean et al based at a Studio, so they are available for post race shows with the likes of Orla.

    So it will be interesting to see where they "base" the studio now, as they'll need to get the likes of McEwen, Kelly, Lloyd etc there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The studio is based in Warsaw. That’s not in doubt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    When did life get so complicated?! I blame hedge funds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Always a safe tack to take, even if they've nothing to do with a given case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I see Eurosport took over the Zwift Academy series this year on YouTube, none of the GCN crew involved.

    Rider numbers halved, think it used to be 6 riders each through to the finals for men and women, they’re only doing 3 each this time round and they just jump straight in to basically just documenting the 3 riders training with the team instead of the whole competitions etc.

    Fairly shíte in comparison tbh



  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭seaviewphotos


    That's disappointing, I was looking forward to watching it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    I found out today when I tried to login to Discovery+ on a UK VPN that D+ can only be watched in the country it was purchased in. I emailed them about it and they more or less said tough sh!t.

    This means if/when I go on holiday in summer I wouldn't be able to watch say, the TdF.

    I assume they have their legal side covered but I wouldn't have thought such a policy was allowed?

    Edit - Should be available in EU. But my VPN was set to UK today. I'll check later if it works with EU VPN

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/european-union-commission-eu-portability-regulation

    Post edited by G1032 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Strade Bianche on tomorrow... I suppose I better finally bite the bullet and subscribe to Discovery+



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭wheelo01


    I've heard of a guy selling Discovery + UK for 6 months @ $16. I dont know anything about him, but is this

    A. Allowed

    B. Good value?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭cletus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    It looks like all the documentaries from GCN are gone. Wanted to watch 'Following El Diablo' again but can't find it on D+.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,877 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Unlike GCN it doesn't remember that I want Ambient Sound and not the snip commentators.

    Post edited by Weepsie on

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Also not loving that you can't seem to add sport/ races to your watch list, at least on ATV (must try nowtv and firestick).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    Am loving the key moments highlighted though. Came home from work and turned on and chose to watch from start (with the intention of fast forwarding to about half hour to go). But they had key moments in the race where you could jump to. So just jumped straight to 20km to go. Of course that's a half hour I'll never get back. Could have tuned in for last 500m tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Luckily for me i copped my father has Sky at home which comes with free D+ via app so now ive to pay nothing for the service :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭JMcL


    With a VPN connected back to Ireland, you should satisfy them it that's their criteria - you can check it easily by connecting your VPN to an Irish endpoint and see if you can watch D+. It may be they're detecting VPNs in general, in which case you're probably hosed.

    On a more general note, a lot of races are free to air on France/Italy networks which you can watch over VPN (they are geoblocked). I watched Strade Bianche on RAI 2 on Saturday, Tireno Adriatico is on the same channel this week, and France 3 is carrying Paris Nice and will have Paris Roubaix. I presume the other monuments are findable as well, and I imagine Belgian TV carries a lot of the classics (and probably CX). Language is a disadvantage admittedly (though for me personally French is fine)



  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Don Juan II


    ITV4 have Paris-Nice highlights (1 hour) at 7pm all week.

    I record and watchback later when the kids are in bed.

    IMHO, ITV4 do the best cycling highlights. I was a GCN+ subscriber and I'm a D+ subscriber as well but I'll always watch ITV4 over GCN+/D+. It's a pity ITV don't cover more races



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,141 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just a heads-up for people on Virgin Media, a lot of the ITV4 cycling coverage is geo-blocked here alas :(

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭devonp


    Got my -€7.78 refund from Apple/GCN+ today 😁, should I plough that into D+ for a months trial basis ??

    not really missing GCN+ as much as I'd thought maybe cycling season not in full swing yet or I'm coping with ES on Virgin..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    I used to like the 5 minute highlights on GCN app.

    no sign of that on Discovery



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    The highlighted key moments seems to have gone as well on D+. For me at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Presume all this gcn dust has settled by now. Mind me asking how lads are getting on 26th they're new D+ alternative? Is that the only show in town now pretty much?

    Probably should sort myself out for coverage with the giro looming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,117 ✭✭✭cletus


    I took out a sub. Race event coverage is pretty much the same. No documentaries. Not sure if the pre race stuff GCN did for the grand tours will be a feature this year.

    If you just want it for the racing, it's all there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Regarding the documentaries, I was looking at the comments on one of the vids on their YouTube channel recently (I tell myself it's not the Journal) and they said they're actively looking for a home for all that content.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Real shame as I actually enjoyed watching all of the tours without the ads. But that was the only reason to sub, so hard to say if it made financial sense if a lot of subscriptions were only for that reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,288 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    There is an ad-free option on Eurosport (I still have an old legacy subscription) so I imagine that will be the same for Discovery Plus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    There is an ad-free option for any race I've watched live or on demand on the Discovery Plus app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I’ve had discovery for nearly three years now. All races are ad free. For the big races, Eurosport coverage is included (ie the breakaway, pre race etc)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    How do you get the ad free highlights? I get ad free live coverage but have to sit through ads on highlights



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    The D+ coverage has been superb; two versions of pretty much everything as far as I can see.
    The 'Eurosport' as-broadcast version (with ad breaks), and the full ad-free version.
    The Highlights offerings are patchy though, it being seemingly random which race/stage gets a highlights package or not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    The highlights packages all appear to be as-broadcast on Eurosport, so they all contain ad breaks.

    As far as I can see anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    And I don't recall the highlights having ad breaks with GCN+, but I could be misremembering that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,301 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Its such a kick in the teeth for the makers of all those documentaries to just have them sitting on a shelf somewhere.

    I used to love putting one of them on on the background. The GCN channel on YT recently had a video of Simon doing America's toughest gravel race. It has been viewed 163K times in just 4 days. And its just 16 minutes long.

    Think that could easily have been 45-60 minutes of interesting content without massively increasing their costs to produce it which lots of people would still be happy to watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,517 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Not Highlights - I generally just watch the live coverage back (as eurosport "highlights" tend to be just the last half hour/ hour of a race anyway)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    Ah! Do that myself sometimes, generally to get the last half hour or so of a race



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    They didn't. Definitely not. Used to have a 5min and 25min highlight option on GCN+, ad free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Subed for 1 month to D+ and boy isn't this a treat without the ads. Will do it again for TdF and Vuelta.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭G1032


    Delete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,206 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    bah, Sky have finally noticed that I was still getting D+ despite having downgraded to the Essentials package, and have cut me off.

    I've paid me 6.99 for the Giro, I assume there's no cheaper way of getting D+?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    GCN is back in the hands of its founder but their website is to be shut down with “up to 20 layoffs”

    Racing rights stay with WB, but the YouTube channel will continue under Play Network


    EDIT: for some reason a link won’t post but google will find it for you!



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