Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

The far right scum in the country are the ones in for a shock.

The only worrying thing is what these scumbags will do once they realise they have no hope politically.

Well we were also told that most people were going to vote yes/ yes in March and that didn't happen. The landslide no/ no votes shows that there is truth to the silent majority 'trope' and the public are not as taken in by FF/FG as they once were

Just as well normal people who are concerned about unlimited migration aren't far right so.

I think there is huge engagement around immigration as an issue. But there aren't very clear alternatives and only a number of independents will benefit this time.

It could be a massive issue in the presidential election though, although I hope it won't be. It will certainly be a huge issue in the next general election, which is less than a year away. I would expect FF and FG to move to the right quite a lot in the coming months.

I could see them getting more violent and unfortunately an attack on a politician is inevitable the way things are going. There are just a small amount of scumbags directing traffic when it comes to the far right in Ireland and they are all on the police radar I'd imagine so hopefully the gardai are on top of things but they will need to be proactive and go after these lads and I reckon it will take a politician being attacked for them to do it.

We are in new territory now.

A completely different ball game.

The idea that Ireland will swing towards right wing or far right politics in large numbers does seem to stretch credibility. It's not part of our political DNA and we've never had any Enoch Powell or Nigel Farage types in mainstream politics. Also, the public here would probably associate right wing politics with FF under Dev and Catholic conservatism and this would be another dissuading factor.

If we look at our near neighbours, they are traditionally far more of a right wing country, rooted in an imperial past, their love for the British army, the Tories being the most powerful party for 200 years, their right wing press and so on.

The minister for justice is helping it out with outlandish statements like “an attack on our democracy” in response to recent events we cannot discuss here.

Of all the issues, crimes, troubles we have as a nation that’s what gets her back up and is an attack on democracy?

This is not in direct response to you, but I personally think withholding data requested by TDs and withholding the advice of they attorney general(when it suits) are far worse attacks our democracy than an event we cannot discuss here.

Should we also expect the same treatment for the far left?

If there are any far right people breaking the law I'm sure they will be dealt with. But what of those who aren't and are not a threat but just don't want thousands of men sleeping in tents in the city centre and pushed into small rural towns where housing, services, GP, schools, are already stretched and are still being called far right. What do you suggest they do?

What are the far right though?

Look at what the so-called far right are standing for,

Ireland for the Irish,

Irish homes for the Irish.

Irish services for the Irish.

The last time a group of Irish people stood up for those statements was our founding fathers when they overthrew the British government in Ireland.

We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The long usurpation of that right by a foreign people and government has not extinguished the right, nor can it ever be extinguished except by the destruction of the Irish people.

There is some talk that the Rwanda plan is exacerbating the problem.

I'm not sure I buy that but .....

If it genuinely works as a deterrent then things will get worse before they get better.

However if they cut off at source (which is probably pretty unlikely I grant you) then long term Ireland will benefit from Rwanda plan.

In such a scenario it's just arrivals at Dublin airport that'd need dealing with.

There's actually a lot of truth in what you are saying. But keep in mind that the Irish revolutionary movement did indeed lead to a right wing and Catholic conservative Ireland for the first 50 years of the state. Even someone as charismatic as Collins would probably be classed as a right wing Catholic conservative these days.

That form of 'right wing' Irish society of the past would be different to the modern right wing populist stuff though - it was more rooted in religious nationalism than anything else. It wasn't really anti-immigration….it was anti everything.