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Deposit return scheme (recycling)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    also quite a few customers recently have been walking out of the shop when they see the price of drinks at the till. dont blame them (other than if they're actually rude about it). most drinks are around 25% more expensive. haven't heard a single customer since this whole thing started have a positive view of the scheme tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It's probably a good thing for society overall if they are giving up imbibing the contents of those bottles and cans. Mostly gut rot stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    have seen responses like this a good few times in this thread. someone points out how stupid the scheme is & there's just a response like "well maybe everyone should just simply give up beverages."😭



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Before the scheme began I bought a sodastream for 15€ on adverts. Do it, you won't look back.

    Avoid this scheme and make 500ml of sparkling water at home for 20c or less (max cost of co2, there are ways to do it much cheaper too).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It's early days. Many more people will be able to figure out that a deposit makes something more expensive at the till. And then your custom will return.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭jj880


    25% more expensive due to recent price rises before the deposit is added or 25% as a combination of recent price rises + deposit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    NavaFresh.ie its actually 36 but + 9 euro shipping.

    I am seriously researching soda stream too though. €9 for syrup that will make 9 litres of pepsi. Despite the initial outlay, the loss I'm currently making on deposits alone, it wouldn't be long paying for itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭geographica


    Ah they are probably battery operated trucks 😬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭geographica


    Where’s the money go from the plastic bag tax, and the sugar tax 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    between 15-25% among different products increase before deposit



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    prices jumped up at the same time as the deposit was introduced, people therefore understandably are thinking that the price increase on the label includes the deposit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Some good points very well put by this craft beer importer. I agree with him: there is no practical need that I can see to bear the R-logo on low volume items; it is enough to register barcodes only (it should perhaps cost more to register the barcode of an item with no R-logo).

    This is an unnecessary market interference.

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/specialty-beer-importer-decimated-by-deposit-return-scheme-1719023



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Following the link above… I got to a page where they say (link)

    "Any consumer who pays a deposit on a drinks container will receive a full refund of the deposit when they return the item undamaged to participating shops and supermarkets nationwide," it said in a statement to Newstalk.

    "Consumers who may be charged a deposit on drinks container without a Re-turn logo can get their deposit back when they are returned empty and undamaged to any Reverse Vending Machine around the country."

    "Re-turn added that "under no circumstances" will a consumer pay a deposit and not be entitled to its reimbursement"

    Soooo - using the machines are optional? Has anyone availed of this offer?

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    How would you prove you paid a deposit on a can not carrying the logo? I thought the barcode was specific to cans that had deposit attached to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Sodastream is good solution only if you can rig it to use other source of CO2 or if you can refill CO2 yourself. CO2 is dirt cheap but branded refills are way too expensive.

    Re-turn scheme is not for everyone, I would even say majority is not going to bother. I work in city center - nights. Every morning when I go home I see a lot of returnable cans and bottles laying around from night before. Worst after weekend. People simply don't bother and I do not blame them - it is hard to be staggering home from night out carrying 10 empty cans when you do have problems to keep walking as it is :)

    This issue was somehow sorted out by homeless people in other countries who found it as additional income stream walking and collecting cans but seems to be too much hassle for our disadvantaged lot. They usually go for straight euro or two and do not see 15 cents profitable enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,378 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I've returned cans bought before the scheme came in, no logo, and because the barcode was on the system I got my deposit back.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    i dont drive, & my shopping i get on the way home form work (often work 6 days & get home too late to return to shop). so i either have to bring with me on the way to work or do on my day off. brought a fairly big bag of cans/bottles to get rid of on my way to work yesterday and of course, one place, emptying machine, other place was broken. ended up carrying around the bag on the train to work like a dope

    If we all just think about this paragraph for a second.

    We are now forcing people to carry actual trash around with them as they go about their day. And not only bringing it shopping, to work and on the train, doctors appointments, etc. We also have to mind it like it's a bag of eggs. Because God forbid it gets a dent in it.

    It's Lunatic behaviour which we are on our way to normalising.



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    Has anyone spotted people picking up littered cans and bottles yet? Tidy towns groups, homeless, enterprising kids, anyone??

    A huge flaw of the system is the machines not accepting damaged recyclables. So many littered items won't be eligible to get the deposit back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,751 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Local Tidy Towns have a seperate bag on their wheelbarrows for them now and have put up photos of getting refunds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    was on a road cleanup, it all went it black bags. if anyone thinks I'm sorting stuff pulled out of hedgerows as well as giving up my free time ..........

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Walking around this morning I've seen several discarded bottles and cans that are crushed to the point where a machine will not accept them. Who is going to pick them up, for the possible "reward" of a few cent and a load of hassle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    A 2 litre bottle of coca cola is now €5.10 in my local shop 😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Really.

    Wheelbarrows? Where is this.

    We get a roll of bags and a picker.

    Everything goes into the bag.

    I know what the response would be if we tried to degrade the volunteers into sorting filthy waste.

    It would begin with a Fúck and end with an Off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I bought a 1.5 litre bottle of tonic in my local supervalu yesterday for 65 cent. Really good value, after looking at the receipt, I was charged 25 cent deposit on top. 90 cent is still good value but its about a 40% increase on the original price.

    The deposit came in during a time of high inflation, so prices went up anyway, the retailers had to pay to print new price tags including the "+15/25 cent deposit", and call me cynical but I would assume the new price added a cent or two to pay for the printing.

    What the government repeatedly seems to forget is that anytime prices are artificially changed, the consumer foots the bill for not just the change but the cost of making the change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,634 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    At least the cans and bottles are not as heavy when they are empty. Easier to carry around than when they are full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭jj880


    Went into a Costcutter yesterday. Mind blowing how much beverage prices have increased since this farce started.

    The latest advice on here is give up your favourite drinks altogether. Like we're all idiots incapable of enjoying the odd soft drink and moderating our intake. Similar stellar logic was being was told a few months ago if I dont like the way Re-Turn is shaping up I should leave Ireland.

    Maybe that should be added to the Re-Turn homepage: "Give up the beverages you enjoy due to Re-Turn related price hikes. Be grand. Sure it's better for you anyway. If you still dont like it. Emigrate".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,416 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Ahhhh, when they are full they are not trash.

    You do understand the difference, right?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I stopped in a small local petrol station chain and got taken aback by €4.10 the other night. That’s the “large” 1.75l red coke.



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