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90's citroen hydraulics - any place in Ireland

  • 11-04-2024 1:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24


    Hi all,

    I've got myself a 1992 citroen XM with the fancy hydraulic suspension, which needs a bit of repairs after all these years. Is there any place in Ireland that still does work on the hydractive systems? All I could find was places in the UK.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,940 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Probably best to ask on specialist Facebook groups. Try searching on Facebook for Citroen Ireland etc. e.g.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Sir Galahad


    Dolphin Motors on Vernon Avenue in Dublin 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    Can't help with any specialist repair center,but I know of this place in Holland that is a Citroen spares goldmine.

    https://bartebben.nl/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuvKU4pu7hQMVIJNQBh2-RAubEAAYASAAEgKiwvD_BwE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Thanks all, I'll give those a look!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Great find and best of luck with it! Where’d you get it? What engine is in it?

    There’s Mark Allen in Rosslare who is a Citroen Specialist and Pat McCarthy in Waterford City, former main dealer.
    Best of luck with it!

    Post edited by hoodie6029 on

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    @GavPJ do you know any other specialists?

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    I can vouch for Pat McCarthy in Waterford. Ex dealer from way back and a nice bunch of people.

    In the Leinster area, the guys in Sur Le Pont on the Kildare/Meath border know their old Citroens too.

    Be great to see an XM saved and back on the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    It's a 2.1 TDI in it, one of the last with no egr or other emissions stuff, Bosch mechanical injection so it'll run on anything. Bought it off a guy in cork who got it from the North. Hasn't ran on the road since 2016/17. Engine fired up on the second go after pouring diesel in the filter canister.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    What a car!!!! It must be the only estate left in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Only 127 total XM’s of all varieties left with an MOT in the UK so I’d be very surprised if we have double figures of roadworthy ones here. None at all showing on the NCT stats.
    I’ve only seen one in the last few years. Slowly sinking into the ground in a yard in rural Wexford. It’s there since at least 2014 according to Streetview

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    What a great find. Used to be a Citreon owner myself. Two BXs and a Xantia estate. Hydraulics were always a bit of a pain, so if you're getting them done, get it all done, there are no shortcuts.

    Great car for frustrating the clampers. Just park, lower it fully, lock her up and walk away. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,469 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The XM is one of my all time favs. The hydraulics were loaned to Rolls Royce and Bentley in the 80's and 90's so if you can't find a citroen specialist they might be the next bet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Hi OP,

    I'm envious - I often thought about getting one of those back in the day. I had a BX estate for a while, it broke my heart but I loved it.

    Ken Fildes sadly passed away a few years ago, but I believe his garage is still in business. Might be worth a call  (01) 821 4477.

    +1 on the Dolphin Motors recommendation.

    Best of luck!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭w124man


    Is that the one near Clonroche on the left heading to New Ross? Been there a long time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    That’s the one exactly!

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭w124man


    You rarely see these in France let alone Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭sligopaul




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    I've got it booked in to sur le pont in two weeks, hopefully it's just something simple like a rusted out line and all the valves are fine.

    I fully intend on getting it back on the road, though insurance might be an issue I worry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    Id say you'll have no problem insuring it as a classic so long as you already have a private policy in your own name.

    The best of luck with it and please keep us posted on the progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,490 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    If Sur le Pont falls through, K. Hurst independent is just a few miles away and has decades of experience but not sure if he still works on them as last time I passed I didn't see many in the yard. But here's a Google street view from 2009. I see Xantias.

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3561224,-6.9636696,3a,75y,40.48h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4mSLUlMQTwr2MBqOxuLM5A!2e0!5s20091001T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Michael Linehan in Grange Motors in Cork specialises in Citroens & their suspension systems. I seem to recall he even had the equipment to renew and repressurise the suspension spheres. He worked on a few my (non-hydraulic) Citroens over the years https://www.grangemotorscork.ie/

    I could be mistaken but I believe there is also a potential issue with the wiring on the XMs - the looms were manufactured fractionally too short and when the engine rocked on the mounts it pulled on the wiring, chafing it as it passed through the bulkhead.

    Best of luck with the restoration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    I'll look into that wiring. I know the estates had an issue with the wiring in the bootlid being too short and breaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Dropped it off at sur le pont today. Awaiting the verdict on how badly rotten it is (hopefully not very)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Sad day, got the update from the garage. Rotten. Floors where the subframe joins are rotted out. Rot all the way up from the jacking points, strut(?) towers can be pierced with a screwdriver. Garage deems it "not worth it" to repair. It's a shame because the only other major problems are the hydraulic leak and a small engine oil leak.

    Time to look for a place that'll fix crusty old cars, I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    That’s really disappointing. Are the mechanical parts economic to fix at least?
    You could consider shipping it to Poland to get a restoration done on it if there is a lot of work needed. Even with transportation cost, it can save a lot.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Engine is fine, it just has the typical valve cover leak of any engine that is tilted over. Hydraulics, the pump valves spheres all the important bits work, the pipes connecting them are leaky. I'm getting a few quotes around Ireland in the coming months, shipping it to Poland may be cheaper overall, plus I know the language so that would help.

    I'm feeling kinda crushed tbh, it didn't seem that bad when I got it, but you can only see some stuff on a lift I suppose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭noelf


    Had a thread here in 2020 ' Today I put a deposit on a classic car ' on a Citroën 2CV I had fully restored in Poland they had a place here in Kingscourt but unfortunately it went on fire about 2 years ago . I just messaged Damian on Instagram and he went back to Poland and he is still restoring cars

    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Thanks for that, I'll get in touch with him probably



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭noelf


    Just read this today ..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 DRedford


    Good read.

    I'm sure the xm will be a neverending rust battle, but with only ~160 xms of all kinds roadworthy in the UK (and none here, according to the NCT database) I think it's as good of a money pit as any other XD



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