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2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just found this in my attic.

    17127803657085313494561884505225.jpg

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    That's all well and good so long as Red Bull keep building dominant cars. They can't, and I'm sure won't, assume that that'll always be the case. If they find themselves fighting tooth and nail for a constructors' championship then they'll want a number 2 capable of getting a lot more than 50% of the points that Max manages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,216 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Not sure Sainz would want to play second fiddle to Verstappen. I reckon he feels he could out-perform Russell or anyone else who will be in the AM second seat.

    He'll end up either at Merc or AM

    If he goes to AM, Wouldn't shock me to see Vettell with Merc for 2 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,690 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Alonso, he is some lad.

    Could also mean that the Red Bull seat is pretty set as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Debub


    IMG_5451.jpeg

    Damon Hill comments 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭rameire


    Am seeing word Carlos Sainz has signed for Mercedes,

    announcement to come out shortly.

    for 2025 and 2026 season.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,690 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Link lad, you can't just say that and head off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Fernando will be 45 on the grid in 2026. He's my favourite driver so I'm delighted he's sticking around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,678 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I remember saying it wasn't a good idea to come back to F1 as he was late 30s and would probably go off the boil on his return*. Delighted to admit I was wrong. Still an excellent driver. Long may he remain so.

    *Schumacher had lost the edge and Kimi was phoning it in late in his career so I thought alonso wouldn't cut it when he came back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭rameire


    Apologies Was heading out the door to Vicar St.

    I have seen some other tweets but from comedic backgrounds so may not be factual.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I mean, look at the community note...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Anton Savage is interviewing Nicolas Hamilton on Newstalk this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Not sure if people are interested in f1 podcasts, but the race recently launched a new history podcast called And Colossally That's History. It's excellent. If you like bring back v10s (which is also excellent) it's well worth a listen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    It's race week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses


    OK…more silly season ... Its rumoured Verstappen has had a chat with Mercedes for the 2026 season, apperantly with the blessing of Marco. Its one of the reasons Mercedes is still looking for a driver for next year only. Sainz would have want a multi year deal which is complicating things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Cant see it myself.

    What could they have said or shown Verstappen to convince him to swap RedBull for Merc, which they couldnt have said or shown Hamilton 2 months ago to keep him at Merc?

    Silly season indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,678 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    They both have reasons for wanting move team. Hamilton is at the end of his career and is getting hundreds of millions from Ferrari for his driver programme. So that's about his legacy.

    Verstappen has years to go in his career and has a totally different set of priorities. I don't pretend to know what his priorities are but he has time to work with a team to become the top dog where Hamilton doesn't.

    Plus, the Red Bull team doesn't seem like a nice place to work (not made better by his family) but Mercedes seems like a good work environment by comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Fair comments.

    But if Hamilton's end goal is to win the elusive 8th title, and he didnt see it happening with Merc…

    And Verstappen swapping a currently dominating team which handed him his 3 titles and looking like a 4th, for better working environment which might not (and as you point out, the working environment might be down to his family, which would move with him to Merc), dont see it myself. He has said a few times he doesnt see himself staying in F1 for that long, break the title record and get out, and right now RedBull is the quickest path for him to do that and get out.

    Like I said, if Merc showed Hamilton something which could give him a more realistic chance at an 8th title then he wouldve stayed, I think. So I completely understand why he moved to Ferrari.

    I do not understand why Verstappen would move to Merc though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭omri


    I wish they made all cars equal in performance and let the drivers make the difference. Otherwise it makes for a rather boring season again. Not to mention the drivers taking a gamble on switching teams in case their car isnt top performer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,678 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    One simple possible answer is that Hamilton doesn't have time to build Mercedes back up, Verstappen does.

    Hamilton might know he won't win with Mercedes in the next 2 years, so why not roll the dice with Ferrari? Given the prestige of ferrari and the money for his driver programme (which i saw was around $400m. No idea if that's accurate) why not move to ferrari?

    I'm sure he'd love to win another drivers title but it's probably not his only priority.

    I'd also hope Mercedes would make clear that they want to hire Max, not Jos. That might appeal to Max too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    I think I already agreed with you on Hamilton moving to Ferrari making sense.

    But Verstappen moving to Merc to build up a team…again, I dont think he wants that. He wants to win, and he wants to keep winning until he gets 8 titles. I dont think taking a break from winning titles for a couple of years to gamble on him building a team up is part of his plans.

    Admittedly the new regs in 2026 is an unknown, so could be a deciding factor, but nobody will know which team got it right or wrong until its too late. Staying at Redbull could prove a mistake too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses


    It is the 2026 season he is looking at.... the massive rule/engine change plus the backing of Daimler benz could make Mercedes a top contender again ... just look back at what happened when the hybrid engine was introduced in 2014.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses


    What you are suggesting would make things boring... what makes F1 interesting is the different concepts and approach to the rules each team is doing.. And it's only a couple of drivers that would even be considered capable of moving teams due to their track record ... other drivers should be gratefull they even have a seat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭omri


    What youre saying as a concept might make sense, however looking at past few seasons maybe removing RB from the grid would make for an interesting viewing. Otherwise its same old same old each race with the rest of the grid fighting for the minor places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    There was that A1 racing a 10 or 15 years ago which was supposed to compete with F1 but all teams used the same car, that died a quick death!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    I dont see Max in F1 long term, doubt he will stick around long enough to get even a 7th title.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    what?

    i rarely comment on this thread, it is great to read, but this is a real "what?" comment.



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