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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Saw a woman on a bike nearly become the latest cyclist to be killed by a HGV in the city centre. One of the most braindead displays of cycling I've ever seen.

    Cycling from Ely Place towards Merrion Street/ Baggot Street junction, she decided that the best place for her to turn right onto Baggot St was not, as you might have assumed, in the right hand, right-turn-only lane, but in the left hand, straight-ahead only lane. Not only that, but it occurred to her that it made perfect sense to move up the inside on a Guinness Delivery Truck to do so. So off she went, gliding up the driver's blindside, proceeds to the front left of the cabin, takes a hand off the bars and signals right while starting her turn. Thankfully there was a passenger in the truck who happened to glance to his left and reached across with his arm to get the driver's attention as she passed within a couple of feet of the front left of the cabin. Meanwhile middle aged lady cyclist looks incredulously at them for having nearly run her over, stops at the other side of the junction having made her (illegal) right hand turn, and glared at the truck as it drove on. She's now gone about her day telling everyone who will listen about the criminally dangerous driver that nearly killed her.

    I genuinely shudder to think what would have happened if there hadn't been a passenger in that truck.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭Be right back


    https://x.com/righttobikeit/status/1769999646628192711?s=20..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Another classic from him. His "right to bike" seems to come before any kind of common sense on the road.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭Allinall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Never mind that he saw the man going across but only brakes at the last minute. His 'righttobikeit' supersedes everyone's else rights on the road.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Trucks shouldn't be let out on the road with blind spots if they can't share safely with other road users.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    He braked at the first minute that the man moved out onto the road.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭Be right back


    No,it seemed to me that he braked at the last minute. Why did he go in front of the scooter instead move behind? And lastly rtbi has full use of all limbs whereas the disabled man might not..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Had my near death one with a Guinness lorry too, over twenty years ago now but never left me. Heading into Terenure outbound from town he overtook closely on a left bend. Mid to rear of the lorry was in constant contact with my shoulder, just wasn't my time that i didn't catch in anything.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Imagine if we were as quick to point out the root cause of the danger as we were to criticise a cyclist?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The post being discussed specifically mentioned the blind spot as an issue, but didn't point out the responsibility of the owner to ensure that their equipment is safe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭Be right back


    He should have started braking before that, never mind the fact he shouldn't have put this clip on X in the first place.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,367 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I'm not really seeing anything wrong in the wheel chair video.

    Maybe he could have braked a bit earlier but he also had a green light and was moving fairly quickly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Eh, we are. Witness the 214 pages of this thread. It doesn't mean that actively putting yourself in danger through a mixture of idiocy, lack of awareness and disregard for the ROTR shouldn't also be called out. Even if that truck had no blind spot (and I used that term loosely to describe the scene and without and actual evidence), there's a high chance the same sequence of events and near death experience would have resulted. Not many people driving vehicles in a straight-ahead-only lane, next to a dedicated right-turn-only lane, would think to look left and behind when travelling straight on with a green light.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    We're not really though. We tend to accept blind spots as a fact of life, instead of recognising them as arising from skimping on mirrors or cameras or crew on watch.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    So he should have assumed that the wheelchair user was going to try to cross on the red man without checking for traffic?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    They can be both.

    There's nothing to suggest that their equipment wasn't safe? Maybe you misinterpreted my (i.e. a first-hand witness to the event, not the driver of the truck) post as suggesting that the truck driver did anything wrong. They did not. They'd have been entitled to have sat on the horn, rolled down the window and roared at the woman who nearly altered both of their lives for the worse. But they didn't. Instead, witnessing a cyclist try to execute a right hand turn in the worst conceivable manner, they jumped on the brakes and avoided a collision.


    For avoidance of doubt - and apologies if it's confused anyone - by referring to the vehicle's blind spot I was simply referring to that area of the road, right next to the left hand side of HGV, that most people associate with being the area where a driver has most difficulty spotting you.


    This incident was 100% down to almost criminally bad road craft by that cyclist. She ticked virtually every box in the "Don't do that if you want to stay alive" bingo card. I'm still struggling to figure out what her thinking was.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    The cyclist who pulled in front of a truck to make a right hand turn without looking was in the wrong, blind spot or not, a car would have struggled to stop in time if a bike swung across it liek that without warning.

    As for RTBI, he needs to get his brakes checked or learn how to use them correctly as at that speed, and that distance, I don't know how he struggled to stop in time. Aside from that, yes, the wheelchair user shouldn't have come out but as vehicular traffic should always be ready to stop when passing pedestrians at the edge of the pavement, whether they are about to cross or not.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    What makes you think that he struggled to stop in time?

    The location of things like A pillars, and the absence of appropriate mirrors or cameras to compensate IS faulty machinery - faulty design, that allows a fundamentally unsafe vehicle to be operating in a public space, sharing with pedestrians, cyclists, older ones, little ones, deaf ones.

    Any equipment operated on a public road should be safe for use on the public road. Drivers of heavy equipment in particular should be able to see when they are near people, and take appropriate actions to make sure that they don't squish people.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭Allinall


    You appear to be ignoring the point that people need to make sure they don't get squished.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle



    Because he was braking here

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    And he stopped here

    At 30kmph, with brakes in good condition, the braking distance, for me at least is half that, and that isn't emergency braking. So either his brakes need work, he needs to learn how to use his brakes correctly or he intentionally didn't brake sufficiently for the sake of a youtube video and caused unnecessary stress to another person. I would expect an observant cyclist to have managed to stop before the white line, or realigned themselves while slowing and just go behind the mobility scooter.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    "I even had a flashing front light under the Garmin"

    I don't think they actually work unless you're wearing a builders vest.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,454 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Just in case anyone is interested.

    I heard nothing back from the Gardaí as expected.

    I popped back into the Garda station today to ask about it and apparently they have no record of a report. Now it seems like it is up to me to trace the Garda who took the report as they all have their own notebooks they write things down in. I was told that the shift I need is in on Tuesday and to drop back then to determine which person it was.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    A cynical person might think that they didn't actually want to do anything about it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 juicer


    I think you are better off reporting via traffic watch.

    That way it gets entered into the system on the spot on a guard will have to follow up on it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,445 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭mvt


    Yes, that particular roundabout always sucks the joy out of a few laps round the park- glad to hear you are OK this time.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I always come down Dawson Street so never knew about the contra flow lane. Does it just spit you out with nowhere to go into oncoming traffic? That is mental

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Irregardless of this, it seems like a horrendously stupid design. If there is a light then 100% on the cyclist but even a quick look on street view shows it blended in with the pedestrian lights, why not put it at the end of the path at average eye level where there can be no excuse. I won't lie, I didn't even notice it on streetview until the second viewing. I am sure i would have in real life but it just seems stupid. not excusing anyone riding through but I can see how it would happen.

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