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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Ringrose is a massive loss.

    The bench will be very important for this one. It always is but its huge considering how well LAR perform later in games.

    Like the last few games between the sides this will probably come down to very fine margins, a yellow card, a refs decision or injury.

    As a neutral this game is as exciting as wales vs italy in the 6n for potential!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    Ex-Leinster lock Jack Dunne leaving exeter and joining scarlets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    following up on my previous post on JGp importance squidge has done a video on his importance and it highlights his impressive traits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭Ciaran




  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    odds on Latu getting red carded on Saturday???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    LaR have been given 9 yc's in 5 heino cup games so far. Definitely expect them to concede one or two on Saturday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    RTE news : Leinster set for Croke Park if they defeat La Rochelle

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2024/0411/1442979-leinster-set-for-croke-park-if-they-defeat-la-rochelle/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    As tough as this fixture is, it's really put the onus on Leo to get it right with selection. I'm not too confident, but hopeful. It's these encounters that Ryan is needed. Molony and Jenkins just can't do it over 80 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭ersatz


    I guess the inference from Jackman's comment is that is will have a bigger morale impact that could undermine this team for once and for all. That is also possible after a sustained period of underachievement, which you could say Leinster is experiencing. Personally I feel like both Leinster and Ireland have remarkable mental fortitude and it has become a truth that they bounce back from defeat very well, while not letting victory go to their heads.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Tobias Bewildered Bluebird


    Bit of a strange post. Ryan isn't available. McCarthy is obviously going to start.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,957 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    odd there's no team announcement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I'm meaning the the use of the bench and the timing of subs. Does Connors come Into the squad? Does Baird move to 19? Lots of schemes to gauge. I hope it's a winning formula.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Jack Dunne to Scarlets! That is fairly surprising to me. I thought he'd latch on to a province or another English team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    I'd say the team will be:

    1. Andrew Porter
    2. Dan Sheehan
    3. Tadhg Furlong
    4. Ross Molony
    5. Joe McCarthy
    6. Ryan Baird
    7. Will Connors
    8. Caelan Doris
    9. Jamison Gibson-Park
    10. Harry Byrne
    11. James Lowe
    12. Jamie Osborne
    13. Robbie Henshaw
    14. Jordan Larmour
    15. Hugo Keenan
    16. Ronan Kelleher
    17. Cian Healy/Michael Milne
    18. Michael Ala'alatoa
    19. Jason Jenkins
    20. Jack Conan
    21. Luke McGrath
    22. Ciarán Frawley
    23. Josh van der Flier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Starting Connors and leaving Conan on the bench would be a big mistake imo. Gaems against LAR don't open up in the second half, that's when the arm-wrestle really begins. Conan will likely have more chance to carry and do more damage in the first half. Leinster will most likely have to make more tackles in the second half and that's when a fresh Connors would be a huge asset.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Tobias Bewildered Bluebird


    I don't see how Connors comes into this game having not really featured at all lately.

    In fact, where has he been?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭salmocab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    He didn't play against Leicester or the Bulls in the last fortnight but started the three game prior to that and has been training. Took a bang to the knee against Zebre and came off so I'd imagine that was a factor too although hard to know if he'd have been in the 23 against the Bulls regardless.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    That's another reason why he shouldn't start. He could give 25 minutes off the bench though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    people like to write Connors off but he’s always performed well whenever he’s selected for big leinster games or Ireland games in the past. Personally I think he offers more than VDF against a team like LAR. Even having Doris at 7, Conan 8, Baird 6 would offer more. However, VDF would be a very strong impact sub when LAR are a bit more tired in the second half, he injects a lot of pace and urgency into Leinster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    The one thing I remember about last years final apart from the utter heartbreak was just how much LAR took the piss with their "injuries" and how much they were allowed get away with it. The broadcast didn't really do it justice but Skelton among others (including Dillane) spent several minutes on the ground for treatment.

    I am under no disillusion that on pitch treatments are and will always be important due to the nature of rugby.

    But what we're seeing more of now is the physio treatment for nothing other than a players lungs to get a breather thus allowing players who are far too large being able to play for far too long. Shed the weight and you'll get the fitness. Rugby Union has enough problems without allowing 150kg players dictate when they can rest so they can maximise the damage they inflict.

    I think if you're getting treatment of any kind that lasts more than a certain amount of time. You get it done on the sideline and your team plays with 14 until the next break in play. If that treatment is for a prop and the next play is a scrum - its uncontested. Yes teams could game this. But it's primarily massive teams who love a shove that would be dropping like flies so uncontested scrums works against them.

    We have the Dupont Rule. I'd love to now see the Skelton rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    expect we will see loads of the same tomorrow.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It is within the ref's control to just keep play continuing if he wants. I feel like that used to happen more often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    It is and we do see refs occasionally put the hurry up on physios etc which is good to see albeit rarely.

    But refs being encouraged to put the hurry up on injuries could set a perception that they're overruling medical professionals treating an injury which is a bad look and something that I can see refs not doing as they're under enough scrutiny as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Trying to inject pace in the second half is pointless when the other team is doing everything to slow the game down. Leinster need to bring the pace early and build a good lead. RAL specialise in turning the screw in the second half, Leinster need to be prepared to deal with it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't think refs should hurry up physios, just ignore them and continue playing. You'll see the players hurry up the physios themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    In fairness to Karl Dickson I think he is one of the refs that does hurry such antics up. LaR are serial floppers around the ruck too but like any good team will continue to do so unless penalised. Mind you, it probably does take Uini Atonio and Big Willy Skelton longer than normal to heave themselves away….

    One would presume Leo Cullen etc have an opportunity to raise such concerns with the ref in advance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Tomorrow's match will be the 5th meeting between the sides in the 4 seasons. They know each other and how they play so well. I'm really looking forward to seeing what new tactical or selection decisions each team has in store for the other.

    In last season's final Leinster caught La Rochelle out with some excellent set piece attacks. Whilst they caught Leinster out by using Skelton as a jumper when he hadn't been used at all for months.

    In that final I got the impression that La Rochelle had firmly worked out Leinster's defensive system. We defended brilliantly near and in our 22, but they made so many metres from their 10 metre line onwards by just having big men run onto the ball at speed that the pressure eventually told. I'm hoping our new defensive system gives them pause.



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