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What's your slurry/fodder situation?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Some lads were stung before lads not paying them. Double cautious afterwards..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭50HX


    I agree but if you are offered payment in the yard & won't sell point blank with the " I want it for nxt winter" approach then there is no good in you imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Took a few feet from the top of the tanks early in the week. Rain gun job unfortunately. Plenty of grass but you wouldn't walk it yourself. Buying bales with a month off a neighbour with no cattle but he's all out now except for a block of loose hay in the barn that is there as long as I can remember. Still a good few bales about the locality but lads are starting to get the prices up now. Was asked €45 a bale for stuff yesterday and he couldn't tell me if it was from 2022 or 2023. Took one to try it but think I'll be looking elsewhere as it was bang average.

    Was talking to my contractor last night and they are worn from agitating and throwing out a few loads. A lot of the tanks that they are at now are on the 3rd or 4th round of the rain gun and it's getting harder and harder to agitate as the water is gone out of them after the first few rounds.

    Started moving cattle on too while prices are good. Took bulls to the mart and they made good money but I advertised in-calf suckler heifers during the week and didn't get as much as 1 phone call about them. Lads will hold off from buying those kind of cattle until they can leave them out I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    That happens more than you think and it's often the bigger guy than the small guy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    All cattle back in here. About a week of slurry space left. Fodder ok. I was out walking with the kids and the growth in ditches is about to take off.

    We are in the middle of the borrowing days and hopefully the last sting of this winter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭JeffKenna




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Eaten bread is soon forgotten is right. I remember in 2013 offering a neighbour 10 bales of silage if he needed them as I was ok. And if he didn’t need them I would put them up on dd to help someone out. He said he was ok. A few months later I had to ask him to look at a machine for me to bleed it as it broke down with dirty diesel mowing silage . I had to go somewhere with work so I couldn’t get to it. He charged me €150.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    The thing is though if someone does a job for you and doesn't charge you it's very hard to ask them another time to do something. Prefer to pay and get them again rather than trying to get someone else that you probably dont know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Disagree strongly with this post. Years ago when everyone made hay you might get a barn fire and all the neighbours would give some to that farmer. The difference is that then there would be a year or two worth of hay as a buffer in most yards in case of a bad year where fodder couldn't be made. Nowadays there are farmers making the bare minimum year to year ( how many fodder crisis have we had now? ). I have no problem with that but if you run short I don't agree with using some emotional blackmail to force someone to sell to you. I was in that position for years and got so fed up I only make small surplus now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Agreed, we've had enough weather warnings in last years to know to save feeding. Stock rates have probably went up too leading to hard to save feed, but that's no excuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭50HX


    I'm not talking about the farmer making minimum feed every year....that's poor business sense or baling out the lad that's driving on numbers & no allowances made

    I'm referring to the fact that where I am it's rained since the middle of June last year, if you get locked up with tb or heavy ground that's failed to get 2nd cuts out of you are snookered if you get a bad 3 months either side if the Xmas.

    2013 was the last time the perfect storm came here & people got caught.

    Far from emotional blackmail..…more like dying farming community spirit in certain areas

    As an aside I got a call earlier with the offer of bales if I wanted,we gave him feed in 2009...no charge, wheel always turns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Maybe easy to say but marts are usually good trade, and any man with lost second cuts, even now it's worth selling excess stock if takes pressure off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Did you not remind him? Would he been a cute hoor or just forgot about it.

    Best drawing a line under each transaction at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Tough fortnight ahead as the weather is promised sh1te until the 15th of April. Even if the weather was to clear that day you'd need another few days drying before cattle could go out. I'm feeding rolled barley to the cows now to spare the silage, but thats not free nor a long term solution. I think there's room for more to be culled this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    no I was too shocked. He is a mechanic but it was literally just a 5 min job so that my father could finish the mowing in the morning. He was passing the door.
    oh we never fell out but wouldn’t be going offering him feed again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    more than likely enough til end of April and realistically cattle could be in til then.
    Land is saturated.,

    cattle as fed up as myself,

    They broke out of the yard last week when I was agitating. They ran up the road, turned around and went back into the shed.
    just hardship at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    The weather is bad when the cattle say fnck this and walk back into the shed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,618 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    three weeks fodder remaining, ok for slurry storage.
    land is shocking.

    Heard prices in mart were well back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Have cows out as they calved (calved all indoors except first one this year) and was worried would run out of grass on fields grazed first. ( had to move them around quicker than normal due to wet ground) but more optimistic this morning as can see bit of growth coming. Beef cattle still in because they go to outside blocks and while it's possible to bring them back they will stay out when put out! Had cows out for month of Feb on "saved grass" which saves a lot of silage, but wetter winters have me considering not doing this in future even though I find it great to get cows fit for calving compared to being couped up in shed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    7 days of silage but have a shed of 100 bales of hay ranging from 1-6 years old ranging from the finest June hay to 70 percent rushes.


    A week in the tank. Have them booked to move a few tanks which should sort it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    serious drying today. No rain and the sun is out . Much better than predicted. Some amount of bales on the move on. Roads this morning though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    Lovely day yesterday, gone 2 steps backwards today.

    Had to get the slurry gun out to get some pressure off the tanks, no other choice.

    Bit of pit left and 40 bales.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Hershall


    Very wet day here again all cattle still in never as late getting stock out. Buying silage also, its a costly winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    no cattle out here bar 7 that weren’t incalf and been fattened in a field of stubbles . 50 cows and calves in and 10 still to calve. Have plenty of bales and barley to roll. Taking out a couple of tanks and spreading on stubbles as I go along. Had a herd test last November and department want to test me every 4 months till they deem me ok. I refused to do it by the 28th of march as too much goin on so got a letter saying I’m now restricted. Haven’t had a reactor in 20 years but the big dairy men around me are all down. So I’m guilty until proven innocent. Shower of ba$tards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    you should raise that with farmers journal or agri land . Show the absolute nonsense the dept are at. Saying they will support farmers and then act like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Another 14 days of sh1te weather ahead going by the forecast. Slurry back up to the bottom of the slats again, the place was dryer the last time I dropped the tank down.

    Out of rolled Barley now, bought a pallet of beef nuts from the coop, the prkks shoved up the prices too over the last week. 13 days feed left, not looking good now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    What part of the country are you? looking like it might be a bit drier in the south and east next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    West Clare. Land was dryer here a month ago but its non stop raining since. Plenty grass in the feilds after the mild winter but it wouldn't last a week unless it drys out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭tanko


    There’s a good chance of high pressure for the second half of next week imo, hopefully it happens, badly needed now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    In Limerick and some of them are going out for the 3rd time on Monday regardless as all feed will be gone and tanks are full forecast is improving. Any bales I've seen lately have been poor enough stuff I'm going to try and avoid buying more of it



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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Is that action by the Department even legal ?
    If you have never had a reactor, had a clear test in November and yet you are restricted ? It’s the same as they insisting on two clear tests after a reactor .Why would one clear test not be enough? Especially in a year like this.
    The Department of Agriculture needs to be pulled into line badly and if the farm organisations don’t have the balls for it, it will be up to individual farmers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Have any of the co-ops started sourcing fodder yet in conjunction with the governments fodder transport subsidy scheme?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,959 ✭✭✭straight


    I have about a month of silage left and a foot or two left in the slurry tanks. Had to travel with the tank a few times in slippy conditions and did damage.

    I had 200 bales of silage for sale earlier on the winter but there was no interest. I think it was @Mooooo on here that said to me, he never depends on spring arriving until May 1st anymore. (Or something not that effect).

    Lesson learnt for me anyway is to sell nothing. I just thought I had way too much and wouldn't be able to use up my pit enough before I cut silage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    yea I sold some on jan and wish I hadn’t now.
    another neighbour gave 30 to a relative in jan but has to go out and buy some now himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭50HX


    I don't know is it in conjuction with the support scheme or not buy I heard kerry supplying pit silage at 50p/tn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭alps


    Preasure high yesterday and today. Can't make out why the fook its taining at this pressure. Never seen it rain at 1023..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Tileman


    fecking serious rain again this afternoon and evening here again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,830 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Got another load of silage bales today. Got slurry out with pipes on Tuesday. Cows were out today. Hate listening to them bawling wanting to go out as they're coming out of parlour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    I asked the lad in my local Kerry store Wednesday if they were going to be be sourcing stuff and making it available locally. Said he would find out for me but it's tumbleweeds from him since. A neighbour has since got in contact and said he can see me out with what I'll need. Hopefully if there's an improvement in the weather a couple of weeks will get some of them out on the drier ground. One of the tanks is looking like it will need a few loads taken from it early next week again.

    Need to find a lad with a quad and weed licker to give a run to a few meadows as the rushes are starting to creep up but they're hard got now too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I have 4 weeks of bales left for my cattle. If temperatures increase and cattle do go out, the grass will grow fast and it will get too strong to graze. Il be left with alot of silage to cut or else alot of topping to dp on my fields as it be hard to keep on top of the grass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭tanko


    None of those things will be bad problems to have if they happen. All farmers would love those things to be happening on their farms today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭Seadin


    True but what I was saying was that normally in my situation I get the cattle out earlier to graze and im on top of my grass a bit better. This year will be different, making bales isn't an issue but trying to sell them can be an issue depending on demand or not. This year there has been a huge demand for bales wiyh fodder crisis for farmers. Next year might not be and could be a better year. Topping the fields to keep it from getting strong isn't an issue either but adds a bit more work to it. That's all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    There will be demand for bales between fear of a repeat next year and low reserves on farms.

    I've had a big surplus of grass last year and probably will again this year due to changing systems and selling the cows. Will scale up a bit more in calf rearing next year so will get back on top of it.

    I've my own baler / wrapper and had no issues selling the surplus bales before the end of September. In the good weather early last year hay sold out of the field within hours of putting on DD, silage later was a bit slower from the yard. None of it traveled too far either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭stanflt


    no slurry left and no silage left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭grange mac


    If you're willing to come to west cork I've loads slurry free to take away..... Buying in bales 3 week's... On 4th round rain gunning yesterday. Just enough ti bring slurry few inches under slats.... Decided sheds being emptied tomorrow after tonight's rain passes. Its been too long.

    Local coop selling bales 70 each and 20 rebate then... Word has it bales in from UK…



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