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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    What was said about McCarthy?

    Now that would be a loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Took a knock to his shoulder. Should hopefully be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭50HX




  • Posts: 95 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    better be a ref who deals with the illegal LAR scrummaging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    Or penalises porter for his amateur technique. Fairly blatant when his arse is facing the fans in the stand.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I'm choosing to be positive for next week. In last year's final Leinster cut La Rochelle apart with some excellent set piece strike moves. They did the exact same to Leicester this evening so it looks like we have that area of the game humming nicely.

    In December we did an excellent job of stopping their big carriers and stalling their forward momentum. Stormers don't have a defensive line as aggressively fast as ours, but still forced the La Rochelle carriers into numerous errors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I think it's a step too far also. Really need to be full strength next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    Ah sure I'll be cheering Northampton tomorrow. It's a rivalry.

    I didn't give a sh#te that Munster won the URC last year. I was more peed off at the arrogance of Leo not picking the A team in the semi when there was a trophy to win. Once Leinster were out though I didn't care who won...but in fairness to the Munster team, they were terrific winning it the hard way...away, away, away.

    Main reason I'll cheer Northampton is for the type of clowns that 'support' ROG. Really they are an anyone but Leinster sect, which is a compliment.

    One thing our southern cousins do well is bitterness, and I fully expect them to have to swallow a lot of it tomorrow before hitching their wagons to a French team in the Aviva as their own team will be gone.

    Plus ca change...

    I thought taking Porter off early worked well today. Not sure he was doing anything wrong but ref's sure like to ping him a lot. Healy did well so I hope that was just precautionary.

    Bordeaux look scarier than LaR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Both teams will obviously be on the mind of the other - anything else is just silly.

    LAR will have Leinster on their minds just as much from their trip back. The last two times they beat Leinster they barely scraped by them, by 4 points combined across the two games, and then Leinster went into their home a few months ago and beat them as underdogs, down key starters and in weather that should have suited LAR's game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    yeah bordeaux for me are Heineken cup finalists, everyone wrote them off. That Sarries team have been washed for the last 2/3 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Personally think I’d start McCarthy and Jenkins in the second row together for LAR game. Molony didn’t do enough for me today and we’ll need the extra height and muscle in the pack. I think Conan’s also put his hand up for a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    For a long time James Lowe's kicking has been a huge weapon for Leinster. It relieves pressure in defence and can be turned into a great territory winner in kick duels.

    But since the England game we've seen teams start to counter those long, raking kicks. Lowe generally doesn't kick for touch. He goes for distance and to bait the return kick. Now the opposition, rather than kicking back for territory, are running it back and looking to set up a quick ruck to catch our defence off guard. It's been working too.

    La Rochelle don't have a great counterattack so we might get away with it next week. But it's something we'll need to be mindful of for the rest of the season. May see a few tweaks in our kicking strategy as a result. More kicks for touch might occur as well as a reconfigured defensive line to cut off the opportunity of a quick ruck and line break out wide. Could even see some kicking duties handed to Osborne. He has a huge boot and it may stop the opposition from dropping further backfield like they would in anticipation of a Lowe kick. Take away the threat of a counterattack maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    It's a bit like a replay of the rivalry between the two provinces between about 2006 and 2010. Munster aren't good enough to challenge Leinster themselves nowadays, so some Munster fans get behind La Rochelle, seeing them as a sort of substitute for Munster in their heyday, with them playing a similar sort of style to what Munster favoured back then - big emphasis on the maul and breakdown. And of course with O'Gara at the helm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Interesting that they didn't give Baird any time at lock today. Felt it would have been the way to get our best players on the pitch together.

    Presuming they want to make the most of having an impact from the bench that one of the backrow coming off fresh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    I didn't see Jackman's analys, but that would be my impression too. There was one case in the win over La Rochelle in Dec where I think he could have got an intercept if he stayed wider as he came up.

    Coming up and in is just his instinct. Look at what he does for the Maitland try just before half time in the Final against Saracens in 2019 (3:47 in this video):



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭kazamo


    in fairness that type of behaviour has been going on for years.

    I remember work colleagues who were Munster supporters, but were supporting Leicester in the 09 final. The level of begrudgery is nothing new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Get Andy Farrell into the dressing room on Thursday to tell the lads the match will be a piece of piss.

    We'll win by 30.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Snyman out for Munster! Whatever ails him, I hope he's over it next season!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Ruginator


    Why? Do Liverpool fans cheers for Man United in the champions league? Rival fans won't support their rival teams. The weird part is Leinster fans feeling offended that Munster fans won't row in behind Leinster. Self entitled nonsense that exists in no other sport that everyone will row in behind their rivals for the sake of Ireland. As a munster fan I hope Leinster get stuffed next week and booted out of Europe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,432 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Fair enough. Everybody is entitled to cheer who they want. And that will include me cheering for our biggest rivals today against Northampton.

    A significant reason being that the more irish teams that go deeper in tournament, the more money that is going around the irfu to keep the game going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,231 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I'm loathe to join this conversation but…

    There are fans across all provinces that will support anyone but the Irish province, there are also fans across all provinces that will always support an Irish province.

    Much noise being made about nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    I've found myself blocked on twitter by some lads who are trying to do a podcast (which seems a strange way of alienating listeners) for expressing the same thing. You don't have to like a province just because they are Irish. It's supposed to be a rivalry!

    I'm occasionally surprised though that even Leinster for a Munster fan isn't the lesser of two evils (against Saracens or a Toulon maybe) but it is what it is!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    I don't see any logic in starting Connors. If anything, you want him coming off the bench and let him tackle his little heart out for the last 25 minutes. LAR are generally slow starters but build into a game. You want someone like Connors coming on to help deal with the inevitable onslaught.

    The other side of that is that Conan's carrying is likely to be less effective if he comes on in the second half. I'd have Conan starting and utilise his carrying strength as much as possible in the first half. Try to do maximum damage early on, then be prepared to batten down the hatches with Connors for the final third.

    By the same logic, I'd start with Harry and bring him Ross (assuming he's fit) to close out the game. LAR are happy to let you build a lead early and they back themselves to wear you down. They really come at you in the second half and you have to be ready to withstand that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    He doesn't need to go to Cork for the week, the same number of Munster/La Rochelle fans will be at the game even if he didn't go down.

    It's all part of ROG and his mind games stuff, like the nonsense last year about Dublin not been home etc. If it works he is a genius, if it doesn't then people will quickly forget and move on.

    ROG is pushing La Rochelle as the poor little French club, fighting against all the big boys with their big budgets.

    In fact La Rochelle are more akin to Toulon than any other club, they are in a small town, the squad is just a list of talent from all over the World, they don't have an exceptional academy(like Toulouse etc) and the entire population of La Rochelle would fit into twickers. The main difference is they don't have a big mouth owner blowing about how much money they spent.

    Will they be a sustainable club long term? ROG probably doesn't care because if it starts to turn then he can jump ship and move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Leinster live rent free in the heads of many Munster fans. I don't give a sh1t if they shout for another team vs Leinster but turning up at matches 100s of Kms from home in Toulouse & LAR jerseys is taking it to pathological levels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Plenty of interesting questions for next week:

    What is our second row pairing?

    Has Conan played his way into the starting side?

    Is there reason to potentially go with a 6-2?

    Does Ross start at 10 again or Harry?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    he said it alright.
    Revenge is the greatest motivator in sports.

    but I would say Leinster think they can win.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Did we win every scrum with Healy and then immediately lose one when Porter came back on?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    must be Jenkins

    I’d say Conan will bench. Fine by me as Leinster are going to need him off the bench.

    must be Harry.

    Q for Leo is should Connors come into the bench in a 6-2?

    I’m not a fan of 6-2 but for this game I'd strongly consider rolling the dice and bring Connors (if fit) onto the bench and go with Frawley.

    v LaR in December
    Leinster: Hugo Keenan; Jordan Larmour, Garry Ringrose (co-capt), Robbie Henshaw, Jimmy O'Brien; Harry Byrne, Jamison Gibson-Park; Andrew Porter, Dan Sheehan, Michael Ala'alatoa; Joe McCarthy, James Ryan (co-capt); Ryan Baird, Will Connors, Caelan Doris

    Replacements: Rónan Kelleher, Cian Healy, Thomas Clarkson, Jason Jenkins, Josh van der Flier, Ben Murphy, Ciarán Frawley, Charlie Ngatai



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