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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    He's also going to be competing with Osbourne and JOB for a spot in the 23. He'd probably do really well with Munster, let him play at 12 where he's best



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    That's a misnomer given how insanely close the Premiership is this year. All the teams seeded from 2nd - 8th have all won 8 lost 6 with bonus points separating them. Tigers are only 5 points off second.

    Having said that the quality of the Prem just isn't really there still. I think Tigers can well make things uncomfortable for us if the injured are unavailable but the current bookies spread of 17 points is telling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Looking back over the Bulls game I think it was a good blue print on how to beat Tigers too.

    I thought we were higher risk in attack willing to move the ball more both pre and post contact rather than recycle.

    The more time the ball spends on the deck the more time a grizzled pack can try disrupt. We gave the Bulls very little chance to do that. And I suspect we'd look to do the same against the Tigers. Don't give Reffell a chance. Although he's good for like 3 steals on a quiet game so I need to make peace with that ha.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Tobias Bewildered Bluebird


    Hadn't been paying attention to the league table there, that's mad. Bath have just been better at accumulating bonus points than the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    It's a weird point of this season with so many players rehabbing and injured. Tigers is a tough match and will be extremely physical. Just like last weeks match. I think we should win but it could be touch and go, depending on who's available. I wonder if Turner gets the call if Henshaw is out? Does dropping a cold Ringrose straight in make sense? Or playing J.O.B?



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's funny.. This time last week I would have been thinking that the Bulls game was going to be a fairly tight affair , very physical and one that Leinster could lose if things didn't go to plan.

    They then went and put nearly 50 points on them.

    My brain is telling me similar things this week insofar as the idea that Leicester could follow an England game plan and pressure Leinster and make life very difficult , but also Leinster could blow them away and put 40+ on them.

    I saw a stat saying that the combined score-line between the two over the last 3 fixtures is something like 85-35 to Leinster.

    I'm concerned but not worried, if that makes any kind of sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    If all the injuries are true (Andrew Porter, James Ryan, Robbie Henshaw, Garry Ringrose, Luke McGrath, Ciaran Frawley, Hugo Keenan & Charlie Ngatai) Leinster should go with:

    1. Cian Healy 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Tadhg Furlong

    4 Ross Molony 5. Joe McCarthy

    6 Ryan Baird 7 Josh Van Der Flier 8. Caelan Doris

    9 Jameson Gibson-Park 10 Harry Byrne

    11 James Lowe 14 Jordan Larmour

    12 Jamie Osborne 13 Liam Turner

    15 Jimmy O'Brien

    Subs: Michael Milne, Ronan Kelleher, Michael Ala'alatoa, Jason Jenkins, Jack Conan, Cormac Foley, Ross Byrne, Rob Russell.

    It should still be more than enough to see them off.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,842 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Leinster could put 40+ points on them easily, depending on what Leicester team show up.

    I find in knock out games where any win will do we tend to apply scoreboard pressure, so those blow outs were TBPs are at stake don't really tend to happen that often.

    I think a 30-15 score line would be realistic and a good return, depending of course on what team we put out.

    Leicester are ok injury wise again, with Josh Bassett being the main worry. I expect chessum reffell and Martin all to be named.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Baird starting in the second row, with Conan start and Deegan on the bench could be a stronger option.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I struggle to get unduly worried given this result

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leicester were down a few players before that game began and lost a few more to injury during the match.

    This time round Leinster are without Ryan and potentially 3 or 4 other starters. We should still win, but I'm not 100% confident



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Sure, but we had Sam play almost 20 minutes of the match and won away by 17 points.

    Upsets are always possible, but I'm just not that worried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    It's a big opportunity for Turner if Henshaw and Ringrose are unavailable - assuming they don't drop JOB or Frawley in at 13.

    Turner's pass out to Russell for his own try when he got the return pass was sumptuous. Just spot on execution. I'd say his 7s experience has helped develop his proficiency in throwing such passes.

    Before the current season - and even a bit into this season - I had him down as squad filler and not really at the standard you'd want against quality opposition in big games. But he's continuing to step up through the levels. I wonder if he'll ever get capped by Ireland. There's been quite a lot of debate about whether Frisch should get capped. How does Turner compare to him? He still needs a bigger body of work in bigger games, but he's on a good trajectory at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    I'd expect Leinster to win this, but the injuries do raise a couple of questions. Not sure they'll have enough for La Rochelle if they both meet in the next round and La Rochelle play to their ability



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    He's got 19 starts for Leinster, 1 sole champions cup appearance, which was off the bench. He'll need much more of a decent body of work at Heineken Cup level before even considering Ireland talk I'd have thought?

    Edit: you kind of said what I was thinking re:Ireland talk to be fair, I was referring to him moving up through the levels, where he hasn't really featured at Heineken level yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Turner is nowhere near Ireland. Even if you exclude Ringrose and Henshaw—Osbourne and JOB are both better 13’s than him. At Ulster Hume is better. At Munster Frisch is better (if he doesn’t go to France), At Connacht you’ve Bundee and Tom Farrell at 13 who are better. Utterly delusional to think he’d get a call up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    I don’t think Arendse is fully utilized at club or national level. Once he’s through he can’t be caught by our guys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    I know it has nothing to do with Leinster but Antoine Frisch has verbally declared for France moving forward. He will more than likely leave Munster at the end of this season. I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to take one of Leinster's centres. Obviously not Ringrose or Henshaw and probably not Jamie Osborne but I could see them target Ciaran Frawley.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    theyve tried and failed to sign frawley before



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    I hope that remains the case but they are definitely going Irish qualified to replace Frisch with a starting quality centre. I wonder would they target Liam Turner. He is a talented player but with Henshaw, Ringrose, Osborne and Frawley (depending on where Leinster see him) are all ahead of him, he might not get alot of starts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,759 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    He will more than likely leave Munster at the end of this season.

    Do we know this for sure? His contract runs until the end of next season so it's not straightforward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    The IRFU seem to have very strict rules when it comes to numerous NIQ players in the same position. Teams from France are trying to sign Frisch, they would have to offer Munster compensation in return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,759 ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    With regards signing them, yes. It's not as straightforward when one of them becomes NIQ mid-contract tho. By way of example, we have both Kleyn and Snyman this season.

    He might well leave. I'm not certain it's "more than likely" tho.

    Yes, RWC etc. for Kleyn Snyman so slightly different scenario, but the contact situation complicates it, compared to if he was out of contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Tom Farrell is a good option for Munster. It's likely they'll offer Berman a chance at the academy. They might try to pry Turner or Osborne but, I doubt either will leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    They may very well keep him but I think Munster have a big need in the front row whether that be Loosehead or Hooker, they wouldn't have the ability to go out and get a NIQ front rower for next season, I think at this stage Munster would rather move on from Frisch and get compensated for it, replace him with say Liam Turner or Tom Daly or Tom Farrell which would be subsidized by the French team taking Frisch for cheaper and really bulk up there front row with a NIQ signing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Ngati is likely off too. This clears the way for Osborne. We are fairly loaded in center. Frawley might be tempted? I still can't see him going to Munster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    If it was going to be a Leinster centre, my money would be on Liam Turner but Connacht have the two Tom's out of contract. They are big lads, experienced and reliable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Has the citing window passed for McGrath? Seems odd that he didn't get anything (mind if he misses games via HIA protocol anyways then it's all the one)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    if McGrath is out it would be very interesting to see who theyd select.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Citing window is well gone. Was Ryan's citing announced? Don't remember hearing about it before the ban.



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