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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭wassie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,273 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    This is a great point. There is definitely close to 1,000 dead or incapacitated per day otherwise you'd not be seeing such large numbers drafted. I wonder if this next batch of 150k is on top of the 30k a month Putin always recruits or if it's just the regular five months worth. It did say before the end of August which is 5 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    It also means Ukraine has a much smaller pool available. Many men of fighting age have left the country or do what it takes not to have to fight. So it's still a serious issue. Russia can "afford" to lose more soldiers than Ukraine can and still keep fighting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    3rd time lucky? Let's hope so, they're saying first half of 2024, which gives them three more months:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I wouldn't be surprised if Russia launched an attack to take Kharkiv.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭live4tkd


    Indeed. Working in the industry I can tell you that Russia had started making their own aircraft using parts that were manufactured by an OEM that I work. The parts were made but all support activity ceased and even moved plants out of russia and the OEM in line with sanctions banned support or provision of spare parts for them. This applies to any and all aircraft in Russia that this OE has content on. So essentially they are worthless now and would be a nightmare to recertify to get them back into service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Yip - i am anecdotally seeing on soc media ( no MSM mentioning it yet ) that there is a large uptick in citizens getting out of dodge leaving Kharkiv. Unfortunately its pretty much on the Russia border and has a population of about 1.5m. All these people will start moving west, so over the summer i would not be surprised seeing a further refugee flow into rest of Europe similar to post Feb 2022.

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    in general it is a numbers game. Ukraine has a population of 40m approx, Russia has a pop of 145m approx. russia has an authoritarian regime so less options to avoid getting dumped to the front line. Re population + lets use the word zero empathy for human life, just math & lack of value for life says russia is way ahead here. From reading up on Ukraine last good while it seems the majority of those fighting on the front lines have been doing so for the last two years without much break or replacement. Thats simply unsustainable. This summer is make or break - make for Russia, unfortunately big break for Ukraine :(

    Also lets face it - Russia getting endless weapons supply from like minded allies + west STILL using & paying for much of Russia's oil etc. Ukraine NOT getting endless weapons supply from its "allies" 9 the west ) and also being hampered by the wests rules of DO NOT hit or attack Russia with western weapons etc

    All this is leading me to conclude, when you factor in above - this was always doomed to fail for Ukraine. Unless the west / Ukraines partners step up like they havent done before, and even at that they might achive just holding the line. Manpower is the thing I think and the west / nato will not be supplying that in theatre



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,733 ✭✭✭✭josip


    No, it's just wishful thinking by some posters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭farmerval


    At the outset of the war if anyone predicted that Russia would lose all the manpower and equipment that they have no on would believe it. All the planes, helicopters, ships of all things, on top of catastrophic quantities of artillery shells and equipment, tanks etc.

    Indeed if at the outset you said Russia would expend all that they have, people would be saying they would be in Warsaw now, not just Kiev. What Ukraine have achieved to date is incredible. Shame on the western world for their lack of support.

    This war is so important, defeating Putin is so important, he is the figure head and facilitator for dictatorships around the world. I know that it's possible the US and NATO fear a broken up Russia with nuclear warheads in the hands of various factions, and maybe that forms part of the doctrine of support for defence rather than attack.

    Overall we are watching a sea change in the shaping of world power and alliances. Alternative facilities and in the longer term renewables have and will reduce the power element of many nations including Russia. Would we have believed that Europe would be fine for two winters without Russian gas and oil? Europe will never again be dependant on Russian energy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    At the outset of the war if anyone predicted that Ukraine would still be effectively fighting two years later no one would believe it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭jonnreeks


    If the US Congress eventually vote through more financial aid to the Ukraine war effort, will it make a change to the current state of the war!

    From what I understand the US has the biggest infrastructural industry for making and supplying ammunition quickly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Interesting article, especially that 80-90% of Russian losses are caused by drones.

    It's a two-way street and indeed both sides can hurt each other with drones.

    But I do think that the increases in geographical range and accuracy will help the Ukrainian side more. Russia can already strike all of Ukraine, but it is a new capability for Ukraine.

    Also, Putin was keen that most Russians would be unaffected by the "special military operation" so not give it much thought. When the war comes to their cities or provinces, and affected their local economies or power supplies, more questions will be raised.

    Ukraine has to fight, or they no longer exist.

    Russia (outside of Putin's head) does not need this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Alot of those pointing out the immense challenges facing Ukraine are saying the exact same thing as the Ukrainian leadership.

    A lot of the Slava Ukraine crew are offering unlimited solidarity, contempt for Putin and Russia but one shell in to a Russian barracks canteen at Supper time is more effective than a lifetime of unconditional love and support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    ”Afford to lose soldiers” for what exactly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Yeah they seem to be hitting Kharkiv with the FAB glide bombs over last few days. Launching them from Russian territory as I think they have 60km reach on them. They don't seem to be getting taken out by Ukrainian AA which means Kharkiv doesn't have as much AA around it or on the approach towards Kharkiv. But yeah it's a major population centre so a lot would leave but I think as so close to Russian border I do wonder would a decent amount stay as they are pro Russian? But Ukraine are vert short on man power hence why the mobilised age limit has been dropped by 2 years but I say a lot of people that age might of left Ukraine or might try to if they don't want to get mobilised either. Ukraine needs a breather just to sort out their defences and to rotate troops but that's just not happening, they are setting up 3 major defence areas further back in Ukraine so that's something but that's also are they afraid that the Russians eventually might get that far into Ukraine as well. Ukraine is running short on everything at the moment, soldiers, ammo, artillery and time. The dithering in Washington over the 60 billion is a complete joke and a stain on the republicans, a lot of Ukraines have died over this not been transferred to them and a lot more will die over this delay. The FAB 500,1500 and I see Russia are making FAB 3000 and I think FAB 6000 are making static targets like trenches and bunkers and buildings into huge holes in the ground, these are giving Russia major advantage at the moment and there exploiting Ukraine there and the lack of AA weapons and ammo that could help defend against these.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    If in late 2022 when the Russians seemed to be collapsing you said that 18 months later the frontlines would hardly have changed at all no one would have believed it either. At many periods in the war predictions have been defied, gains have been halted.

    Ukraine has done an amazing job against the barbarians but anyone who thinks the picture looks rosy right now (for either side) is fooling only themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I've commented on this manpower problem occasionally in the past and have been given warnings for 'annoying others' on this thread, so I don't know what Ukraine can do bar seal their borders and stop people leaving. It's a real problem for them so long as other European armies including our own are not prepared to go and give them a dig out. It seems that we expect them to just carry on bleeding and do little to support in practical ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭IdHidden


    While there are problems it is far from Ukraines darkness hour. Democracy will prevail.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Strange comment, don't be silly. Contempt is also important task. I mean, In consider myself as part of Slava Ukraini crew and offer never-ending support but I don't have shells to offer, its ilegal for me to buy/sell shells, I do donate some money however which hopefully contributes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Just a quick comment - Russia has bombed Kharkiv for two years, I doubt the Russia is very popular among the residents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And for those Russians who have lost their enthusiasm, or are having second thoughts, the special encouragement line……..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Reading more about this proposed NATO 100 billion fund and … well. The more things change ...

    Guess Putin's gonna be on the phone telling his Hungarian poodle to bark in the manner he's paid to.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    That looks like the work of the great David Low. It seems his depictions of appeasment before the Second World War led to some in the British press labelling him a ''war monger'. Plus ça change…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,810 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Comments say a s400. The less of these, the more havoc the UAF can cause the invaders



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭thomil


    Speaking of the UAF, has anyone heard anything about how many combat aircraft they have available at this point? I’d presume that the Su-24 and Su-25 fleets are pretty depleted at this point, but it’d be interesting to know how many MiG-29s and Su-27s are still operational.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Just to put it out there that Sumy's in Ukraine and the source Telegram channel's description reads "Ukraine is a brain disease". So I'll leave it up to the reader to decide what to think about that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,390 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    UAF for obvious reasons keep their equipment losses very quiet. No idea what they could be, and you cannot trust Russian figures either. I'd be assuming at this stage most of Ukraines neighbours have exhausted their supply of older soviet aircraft.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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