Breaking - Shooting and Explosion at Concert Hall in Moscow

The Russian's say they were trying to get over the Ukrainian border. The US say they were Isis K.

Alistair Crooke says isis-k is a western backed mercenary organisation. I can't fully follow what he's trying to say.

Nuland gets a mention. Seems madness to me. I think we're very lucky in Ireland to have no oil and be far away from Israel, Russia and the USA.

Seems like that's it for now with the latest atrocity and no nuclear war today which is good.

These days, when #Nuland gets mentioned, it usually means that something pretty low-level is referred -- conspiratorial, superficial-level, nonsense.

It makes a lot of money for those leading these people, so I can understand why it exists.

I just feel sorry for the sheep. How sad must it be to be a sheep :).

Because it makes more sense and I have no reason to believe otherwise, like you other than speculation

It's great to say that you trust them to defend you from Islamic terrorism. The only problem is that they didn't succeed in protecting Moscow from Islamic terrorism though.

You think isis train like the SAS

There are lads who have never seen a toilet using tactics from the somme in the Ukraine

With world war 1 guns

I answered it many times, just had to dumb it down

You can be as sceptical as you want but you can't just make up your own story

That's baseless

Your first attempt was a sidestep aout warnings from the US, your second attempt was simply "because...." like some petulant teenager.

And for the fitth time, I have not put foreward ANY "story" or presented ANY baseless scenario, I put forward a theory - with base - that someone who lies might by lying again and someone who uses political incidents for his own agenda might be using a politicial incident for his own agenda. He's done it before, repetedly. That's very real and plausible base.

The only way you could call it baseless was if you tried to present Putin as an honest upstanding leader, which I'm guessing you don't beleive.

No no no, side stepping what

It's believed that thee are the suspects by American intelligence

You can be sceptical all you want but unless there's something concrete known then this is a believable story

More so than one made up by you

You said the US gave them warnings beforehand, that's nothing to do with the suspects, and you know this.

And for the sixth time, I have not put foreward ANY "story" or presented ANY baseless scenario, I put forward a theory.

If you don't say anything new in your reply, I'm going to assume we're done here.

This happened on the outskirts of Moscow why did he take Moscow Police 1 full hour to show up at the Concert Hall?

You swear it happened in the middle of Siberia reading your last line.

You just don't read the posts you reply to, do you? We're done here.

He's not a "deranged" madman, he's a clinical psychological madman. He's probably waiting on the outcome of the US presidential election, because if Trump wins it massively increases his chances of winning the war.

It's generally accepted that ISIS did it, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that those 4 lads the FSB have in custody are just stooges, who have been tortured and who will say whatever the FSB tell them to. The real ISIS killers are probably back in Afghanistan right now. I take it ISIS haven't confirmed the identity of the those prisoners as members yet?

No, he didn't, the oligarchs were around long before Putin arrived on the scene. They appeared on the scene following the dissolution of the USSR, and drove the country to near starvation, so avaricious were they in their fight to grab everything of value. They laughed at Boris Yeltsin when he called them all together and asked them for at least the cash to run the country. So Yeltsin gave up, he had absolutely no control over them. Putin was a different story. An ex-KGB operative, he was well versed in how to manage and control people. First, he went after the biggest and richest oligarch of them all, Khodorkovsky. He had him arrested and put him on trial in public. He stripped him of his wealth and sentenced him to 10 years imprisonment. Then he called another meeting of the oligarchs, and informed them of the new arrangements he was putting in place. Business as usual, but with one difference. "X" amount of their profits now belonged to Putin,, no arguments, or you will follow Khodorkovsky to prison, after all your wealth has been confiscated. And that was that, and thats how it has been ever since.

Now monkeybutter, when a poster here on boards has to resort to derogatory language like accusing people of being clueless, that give's me an insight of the actual intelligence of that poster, when thats the best he can do in a discussion. Keep it up, monkeybutter, and you will be told go and talk to the mirror, OK?

Wait til they come for the turf.