Breaking - Shooting and Explosion at Concert Hall in Moscow

dublinman1990

The Guardian is reporting this evening that three men wearing camouflaged outfits administered open gunfire among people at a Concert Hall in Moscow.

There's are reports of an explosion carried at the venue as well. I don't know how heavy the explosion at the moment. But reports suggests it could be a very serious one.

No reports of any injuries so far.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/22/moscow-concert-hall-shooting-blast?CMP=share_btn_url

**Threadbans**

Safesurfer

JVince

Funny how certain racist types always make assumptions - which nearly always end up being utterly wrong

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927633#Comment_121927633

Wow...steady on with the vitriolic comments.

swiwi_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927633#Comment_121927633

But you are speculating…don’t lie. You were delighted to speculate.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927633#Comment_121927633

Do you have a blue check?

dublinman1990

12 people killed so far at the venue according to the latest update from the BBC.

There are a total of 50 ambulances being sent to the Concert Hall which may indicate more casualties are to come from this serious incident later.

hotmail.com

40 dead.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927651#Comment_121927651

What's this insight about.

aidanodr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927706#Comment_121927706

Id say the death and injury toll will be far far higher. As per video from up high and at a distance they just mowed people down with large amount of rounds

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1771243345936822595

Overheal

Daresay we won't know more about this for a while, and whatever the Russian govt says about it will be open to doubt. Commiserate for the innocent dead.

aidanodr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927718#Comment_121927718

interestingly the US Embassy in Moscow flagged this March 7th

https://twitter.com/JorJorWell/status/1771244364779401555

silliussoddius

If anyone knows the finer points on this, it would be JorJorWell!

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927633#Comment_121927633

This would be really insightful if initial fingers werent pointing at ISIS / Islamic Extremists as per the advisory issued by the US Embassey in Moscow a few hours ago, but don't let your blinkered racism get in the way of a good rant.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927721#Comment_121927721

That is interesting, but I don't want to speculate in this thread, yet.

Strumms

If Ukrainian forces either military or a group acting independently are to blame, what do they think Russia's reaction might be ?

A) hmmm we'd rather you hadn't done that but while your anger might be justified we'd ask you to refrain from further attacks....

or

B) well that was unexpected, let's get revenge, knuckle down, bombard, and destroy areas in the Ukraine, kill more Ukranian people for X days....

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927752#Comment_121927752

Dublincc2 is doing enough speculating for everyone.

hotmail.com

Checken separatists did this before in a theatre in 2002 and Beslan in 2005.

ToweringPerformance

All kinds of rumours flying around it seems. One way or another it's awful to see innocent people slaughtered like this no matter what.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927770#Comment_121927770

Depends who you ask, and there is yet any evidence Chechens are involved here.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927762#Comment_121927762

Yeah, they don't seem to be like Hammas where they don't care about their own civilians.

ToweringPerformance

Timing is everything. Putin just re-elected and Kremlin only today now officially calling the Ukraine invasion a war. Full mobilisation imminent imo.

PopePalpatine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927706#Comment_121927706

That's just from when Spetznaz attempted to free the hostages.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927714#Comment_121927714

God love them, RIP

We there ever be peace

gym_imposter

Helluva recruitment gift for Putin

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927950#Comment_121927950

I've no doubt this will be blamed on Ukraine with little evidence to back it up and used to encourage mobilisation of those previously on the fence about fighting.

Straight Talker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927633#Comment_121927633

Russia did bring this onto themselves if this attack is linked to the invasion of Ukraine. I take no pleasure in seeing innocent people being killed, but when you start a war be prepared to deal with the consequences of your actions. The poor people here like the people in Ukraine are victims of Putin and his actions imo.

ToweringPerformance

Some video now online of one of the shooters being arrested at the scene. Islamic terrorists don't tend to surrender for questioning.

combat14

concerts are a popular isis target - could be islamic seperatists using ukraine to restart their independence claims

fullstop

Very, very suss. How is it the yanks announced last week that this might happen but the KGBand Russian police weren’t able to prevent it? One would almost think they wanted it to happen…

handlemaster

As Russian fires 90 missiles and drones cutting electricity for 1million people they come out with the moral compass..

Russia calls on international community to condemn the 'monstrous crime'

Russia’s foreign ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, has called on the international community to condemn the “monstrous crime” following the gun attacks at a concert hall near Moscow, Reuters reports.

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927970#Comment_121927970

I immediately thought of the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings which were blamed on Chechen rebels

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928001#Comment_121928001

I assume that if the US had some fore knowledge of an attack being prepared in Russia, they must had some idea of exactly who was planning to perpetrate it?

This kind of thing, it doesn't seem like Ukraine would have much to do with it directly. The Ukrainian government would know exactly what Putin's reaction would be to try and whip up jingoist fervour, which would just mean more mobilisation. Not exactly something Ukraine would want, surely.

dublinman1990

Although if the police in Moscow found out that these gunmen were not Ukrainian through their I.D. etc. How will Russia cope if Ukraine are not the enemy in carrying out this terror attack on these innocent civilians being killed in Moscow. If Russian police forces eventually find out that these gunmen carrying this attack were not from Ukraine; it's aftermath would be regarded as a much bigger shock among people who work for Putin in the Kremlin and the rest of the civilians who live around Russia. As the news unfolds over the next few hours; it would be regarded as a huge story now if Ukraine wasn't involved in this attack at all. Although the levels of shock and distress would be of equal measure if the terrorists were from alleged main instigators such as Ukraine.

VinLieger

Wouldn't be the first time Putin's staged a false flag operation on his own people.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121927994#Comment_121927994

I can’t think of several, actually, who have surrendered to arrest so don’t fly off with that assumption.

Beechwoodspark

Whole thing stinks of a “special operation” from Putin’s twisted mind.

Beechwoodspark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928056#Comment_121928056

Bombed a tower block to justify a war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

Stewball

Apparently they've caught one of the gunmen alive. Hopefully he'll be tortured to within an inch of his life.

All will be revealed over the weekend.

ejmaztec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928103#Comment_121928103

All Russians are expendable, Putin only needs enough people to turn up at polling stations to make it look like there's democracy going on.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928124#Comment_121928124

I'd say he'll be Ukrainian no matter where he is from. That's probably already decided.

ToweringPerformance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928124#Comment_121928124

Absolute scumbag.

ToweringPerformance

Kremlin already pointing at Ukraine's top officials. This is so telegraphed.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928139#Comment_121928139

Why does he need to do that? What would the Russian people do if he didn't keep up that thin pretense? Revolt? Ha!

Danzy

The US warned recently of a pending Islamic incident in Moscow.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928001#Comment_121928001

Very easy, if you think about it.

Something is being planned in a city of 10 million, by person's unknown at an unknown upcoming date.

ToweringPerformance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928197#Comment_121928197

They said nothing of the origins of any attackers no?

tobefrank321

Van with ukrainian plates found outside.

Don't think the Ukrainians would bother with this type of operation.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928215#Comment_121928215

Maybe they did in private, the FSB foiled an Islamic State attack against a Synagogue today, this may well be another prong of that attack.

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928196#Comment_121928196

Something to do with a constitution oddly enough. Even though Putin can do what he likes, he still feels the need to stay somewhat within the law. All a sham of course.

In terms of revolt no. As long as the average Russian has a reasonably comfortable life, little chance.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928232#Comment_121928232

Today?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-neutralized-isis-cell-plotting-attack-moscow-synagogue-2024-03-07/

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928215#Comment_121928215

Correct, the embassy gave no detail other than "extremists"

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121928124#Comment_121928124

Are you that naive?! Nothing will be revealed, we’ll get some pre-rehearsed spiel about Ukraine or ‘the west’ being behind it and mother Russia has to defend herself with some horrible atrocities.

Apparently they have found a “suspicious van” with Ukrainian plates…how convenient. First rule of committing a terrorist attack…make sure you have an easily identifiable vehicle that stands out from all others 🥴