Will Aontu have canidates to vote for in next election

That's the thing though, shinners don't ever want to state their position on immigration.

They will talk all day about housin and health but nearly wet themselves when immigration comes up.

Soc Dems and Labour are the same in fairness but it will affect SF more because they rely on working class urban areas for votes.

Calm down I never said they weren't.

I'm pointing out why they will lose votes.

An opposition political party not having a clear policy on something means they are "traitors"?

Neil Blaney. Leader of IFF, TD and MEP at the same time (on two non-consecutive occasions).

Pronsias de Rossa was leader of the Workers Party, TD and MEP 1989-1992.

In NI, Paisley was an MP, MEP and MLA at the same time.

Michael O'Leary left the MEP role on becoming Labour leader.

Note that none of these are post the ending of the Dual Mandate. Should he somehow get elected, would Toibin immediately resign as MEP and hand the place to the first on his replacement list; or resign as a TD?

First place on his replacement list is going to be another Toibin I'd expect.

It's basically a win-win (for him) to run in the Euros, if he wins he'll go to Brussels and resign as TD, if he then runs for the Dail and wins he gets to co-opt someone into his Euro seat, if not elected he's still an MEP. And if he doesn't win a Euro seat it's still great exposure during the campaign, a lot of people won't question or remember that he was happy to do a runner to Europe when returning him to the Dail in a subsequent GE.

I don't think they have a tough stance on immigration at all.

Independant Ireland would be more in line with what my own views are on the subjact.

Aontu getting an uptick in the polls:

And also

Yes, although note that decades ago, left-wing parties were often against immigration, fearing that it might drive down wage growth.

Wikipedia says they have 3 County councilors, so you could see that number creep up a little..

It is more that the party was set up as a refuge for the large no of people who were in SF but are not in to the loony left point of view.

Yes but they have staked our right/centre positions on other issues, I'd imagine on an "in for a penny in for a pound" basis.

I think it's reasonable for voters of that disposition to believe Aontu speaks for them on more than just abortion...

They seem to be attracting a MAGA-type crowd.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0524/1514700-aontu-politics/

Party delegates voted on the measure by a show of hands during a session on the international protection system, during which they also voted for a ban on "the introduction of Sharia law" or "community courts of any religion" in this country.

Yeah, we were that close to bringing in Sharia law but thankfully no-craic SF™ stepped in to save us! 🙄

Whipping up racial and religious divides based on nothing, ah no, that's not the way they operate, atall.

They also voted in favour of "an audit of all DEI [Diversity, Equity and Inclusion] policies" [Dublin South Central cumann], the ending of "unconscious bias training" in the Defence Forces [Dublin South Central cumann], and for an end to media "misinformation" based on off-the-record political briefings [Letterkenny and Donegal cumann].

MAGAdiots alert.

And like Renua they're never going to get away from the only reason they exist. Irish Times interviewed three members at the ard fheis, unprompted two of them said they joined because they're anti-choice.

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/05/25/aontu-reform-ardfheis/

No doubt every party has some overlap with MAGA, but suggesting that they are generally close to MAGA is blx.

The Sharia law thing is voting against something that every party is against, as far as I know.

They may well reflect the one third of the population that opposed the 2018 referendum, it seems that some people do not want people to have the choice of voting for people representing their view.

They also voted in favour of "an audit of all DEI [Diversity, Equity and Inclusion] policies", the ending of "unconscious bias training" in the Defence Forces

Seeing as these 'unconscious bias' courses have been shown to be worthless, we have a special rapporteur on racism who has argued for affirmative action in Ireland and has written a book looking at employment here through a critical race lens, and just last year the CEO of Ireland's government-funded Children’s Rights Alliance said white people are “walking around with a backpack of invisible privileges in our society", I think it wouldn't be a bad idea just to keep an eye on it.

Speaking of which we haven't heard much from Ebun Joseph in the last year, I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing