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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,020 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Considering one country signed the Budapest Memorandum and committed to defending Ukrainian interests and one country did not, I'd suggest that the ones honoring their promises is better.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 iskander



    Are there even any men left to press gang into military service in Ukraine?

    washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/15/ukraine-village-mobilized-men-war

    Last summer, Polina and her friend Olha were relaxing at a table outside the village store when Olha’s dad called and asked her to buy something for him there. She brushed off his request, saying she was busy with friends. He walked to the store himself instead, and the teens watched in horror as soldiers surrounded him and handed him a summons on the way in.

    He has been serving ever since — and his daughter blames herself. “Olha thought it was her fault,” Polina said.

    Can't even go down to the shops without being summoned for military service 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭Polar101


    It's almost as if Ukraine has been invaded by an aggressive, larger country. Who don't really have very good internet trolls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    FFS .. this is crazy stuff. So we are back to oil as the root of it. Sickening

    This war is being managed out of appeasement and fear. Its as if some in the west want this war to keep going and just keep it on life support rather than provide whats needed to finish it.

    Whats going on?

    With such partners there is no need for enemies. Is that the message jake sullivan delivered when he was in kiev during week?

    "One person said that the White House had grown increasingly frustrated by brazen Ukrainian drone attacks that have struck oil refineries, terminals, depots and storage facilities across Russia, hurting its oil production capacity - FT"

    "We do not encourage or enable attacks inside of Russia", an NSC spokesperson adds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    Ukraine is a sovereign state in a state of conflict with an aggressive invasive neighbour. They can do what they need to do repulse that invasion.


    The USA have been helpful in supporting Ukraine. But the war is being waged by Ukraine as they see fit, and they're doing a damn good job with what they have.

    Post edited by wildefalcon on


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Equally, it might concentrate minds in Washington if, without the aid and arms to fight Russia in their own country, Ukraine must resort to these drone attacks on the infrastructure. They can't have it both ways & Kyiv presumably highlighted this conundrum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,346 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The US has let down Ukraine badly.

    They will probably lose the war and it’s only the US fault.

    We stand with Ukraine until the end.

    BS promises and lies. They really have a lot of blood on their hands throughout history to the present day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    It isn't just the US. Europe could do a lot more but chooses not to. It is a lack of will, not means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    If the Americans don't wish to activate the $60billion military assistance package, Ukraine should carry on the drone attacks on Russian Oil infrastructure. Which are certainly justified due to Russian murderous attacks on Ukraines civilian population & infrastructure since the start of the conflict.

    Maybe it's time for The EU to go totally on a war footing as is being discussed recently, that means stepping up military supplies & finance to cover the recent USA deficit.

    Tankie vermin on the far left & hard right, Putin fanatics, communists, & other traitors against western civilisation will certainly be in total meltdown mode, however, for Europes future Ukraine HAS to win this conflict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    These gluide bombs are being launched from Ukraine territory just 60/70km from the frontline. It's shocking Ukraine still doesn't have the means to consistently stop this. This weapon is Russia's ace in the hole right now.


    Mud season about to start hopefully that slows the Russians. I wonder if they're stupid enough to continue conducting armour attacks or will they stockpile tanks and APCS for a summer offensive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    The Russians have been superb at asymmetrical warfare for the last twenty years, funding and supporting every contrarian fringe group and collection of useful idiots as part of their efforts to show division in the "West". And it's working.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The American will is there, it's just that the bills to supply Ukraine are being intentionally held up by one side of its political system, one that's utterly in the thrall of a compromised, hyper-conservative group of ideologues, now overrun by a cult of personality. Whether they've been bought out by Moscow or just choose to side with Russia's "illiberal" system, the GOP would now rather tacitly support Russia than American's allies. Biden can't get around this, and we can't blame him entirely here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭rogber


    That's an absolute f*ckin disgrace if true. We know what US persuasion will involve: either do what we say or we stop cooperating militarily.

    And of course American economic interests always take precedence over so called commitment to human rights and democracy .

    There's a lot of worrying background noise around Ukraine right now, I hope much will turn out to be unfounded rumour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    But Biden knew there was a possibility of the next aid package being held up, he could have used lend lease before it expired, he choose not to.

    He also has the power to give Ukraine surplus/obstacle stock, he's choosing not to.

    Where there's a will, there's a way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Oil is always near the root of the problem. Isn’t that what fucked hitler, pushing to take the oilfields in the caucuses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,346 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The signs aren’t good.


    Ukraine have done remarkably well considering their military capabilities but there is only so much they can do against a much bigger and powerful nuclear country.


    They are been abandoned and in a way I hope the war arrives on the doorstep of all the cowardly leaders who have appeased Putin the whole way through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt



    on the day the US tells Ukraine to stop hitting russian energy infrastructure Ukraine suffers a heavy strike after only shooting down half of the missiles/drones fired at them and almost none of the ballistic missiles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    I am blaming Europe, not the US. The US could never be trusted - how can we not know that by now?! Half the country supports one of the most hideous humans on the planet and we are suppose to trust them?!

    Once Mike Johnson was appointed it was clear what was going to happen, yet Europe sat and twiddled it's thumbs. Macron is now starting to panic as the writing is on the wall. Of course he will do literally nothing except talk big with no action.

    As for the US getting annoyed about Ukraine hitting oil facilities... I did speculate on this thread that the timing might not have been a coincidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Related to US telling Ukraine stop bombing russia .. this

    the last part I have been saying. Prepare for milliins more ukraine refugees. What we have had to date is a drop in the bucket. Also same from other states like moldova etc once putin defeats ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Would you believe that? Less oil coming out of Russia is good for the USA who will jump in to fill the gap. Just like they started doing when Nord Stream was blown and the sanctions started by shipping LNG across the Atlantic. Plus isn't there a cap on oil prices paid to Russia, and the "sanctions" where countries aren't supposed to be buying it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Nonsense. If there is 1 thing that Biden does not want in an election year is rising oil prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    IMG_4793.jpeg

    Maybe Macron can lead a coalition of European forces into Ukraine ? ….. kind of wish Boris was still around…. I think he be more pro active in dealing with putin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭zv2


    They should bomb the railway in Kursk. That would knock out a lot of logistics for the whole country.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Каково жить в самой большой заднице в мире и понимать, что у тебя нет будущего? Как можно пропагандировать тот факт, что ваша родина Россия стала нацистским государством, которое закончится, как и другие неудавшиеся диктатуры? Вы размещаете кремлевскую пропаганду за 15 рублей, чтобы надрать буханку хлеба, но не думаете о будущем своих детей? Недочеловек? Отсталый? Или просто полезный идиот? Как насчет того, чтобы вместо Искандера изобрести хоть раз что-нибудь полезное?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    Really? Europe twiddled its thumbs?

    "The European Union has given, on average, over $710 million (€650 million) per year to the country since 2014—almost twice as much as the United States average. The European Bank of Reconstruction and Development has given a similar amount..."


    "Some of this military assistance has come through the European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) for support to the military and national security forces, which includes intelligence support, training and logistics support, and equipment (e.g., C2 systems; situational awareness systems; secure communications; military mobility; night vision; military medical treatment; maritime and border security operations; and defensive weapons systems). As of 2017, military assistance (outside of EDI) also includes the provision of lethal aid for defensive purposes, including the sale of U.S.-made Javelin antitank missiles and launchers to Ukraine."

    Thats all pre 2019.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    This war is only going one way as many analysts have been saying for a while now. The west either stops acting the boll ox and actually backs Ukraine to the full or they are going to lose territory in an eventual negotiation or worse Russia starts gaining more ground in a move towards Kyiv.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt



    Russian missile hitting the Dam that Stalin blew up. 2023 and Ukrainian can only cover less than half the frontline from ballistic missiles.


    And Germany won't send Taurus the **** Nazis. It's mad how they were defeated in WW2 never to have an army again and 80 years later they're hindering a war effort in Europe. Madness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Oh our man from the Baltics (am I right, pierre?) got rightly pixxed off with the ruzzian troll and let him have a piece of his mind, fair play!

    Those boxing pics of Manu are pathetic. Just like the time he was cosplaying Zelensky for the camera a couple of years ago. He’s all about projection and grandstanding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    It must be utterly demoralising for the brave Ukrainians on the front line to see this unfold. They are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs begging for more supplies which aren't coming. It's beyond despicable.

    Also the war seem to be falling off the front pages of late which isn't a good sign. The hit on the dam is only the 6th story on sky news for example behind a row about England rugby shirts latest design.

    Also now being reported on Reuters that Russian spokesman Dmitry Peskov has declared it is now in a state of war for the first time.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    kind of wish Boris was still around…. I think he be more pro active in dealing with putin

    The man who put the son of a Russian spy into the House of Lords?

    Johnson liked the publicity and the imagery around helping Ukraine. His incompetence and ineffectiveness would always get in the way of actually accomplishing anything.



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