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Weatherspoons Sold

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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Raiden Damaged Schoolroom


    A shame to hear that about Pinks.

    Haven't been in there in a long time but it was exactly what the town needed, something a bit different. The few times I was in there I really enjoyed it but as I say, it's been a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭GandhiwasfromBallyfermot


    That coffee shop they have around the corner, NYCD, isn't half bad. But their late night businesses seem to be mostly cheaply put together and badly maintained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭dzilla


    Upstairs and downstairs is Night and Day, like 2 different establishments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Total classist. BTW Weatherspoons as a whole is doing fine. Look at the stock price. The sell off is probably due to rise in interest rates and over investing. We see across the business world from Facebook or Google to local businesses. Wanting power centralized in your capital as opposed to Brussels does not make you non classy person.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Selling Beer at knock down prices - unfortunately makes you non-classy as it attracts a very low class customer which drives out the more refined customer. As a group they are suffering significant supply chain issues and staffing issues due to Brexit which means they are suffering on profits.



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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Raiden Damaged Schoolroom


    By any metric you wish to use Brexit has been bad for Weatherspoons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Really? I've been in there about 50 times and while I've seen a few messy people I've never seen any trouble?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭nomoedoe


    How much did it sell for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    are u there from opening to close 7 days a week? an altercation takes a few minutes and probably resolved/removed quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    Greenway Manor was a disaster for years I dont know if it has settled but they had constant walk outs mid shift, i know a few seasoned Hotel workers that walked. dont know if its settled now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    I'm just saying I'm in there a lot and I've never seen any trouble, maybe you're just unlucky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Whatever about the pros and cons of Weatherspoons as a pub in the city at least the debate about its affect on locals is a lot more realistic than the usual local business heads sticking their oar in whenever a pub or cafe closes in Waterford.

    Every time rents or rates or some other tax puts pressure on hospitality you have Flash Gordon with his sad face on the News and Star lamenting about how much his businesses will be hit by changes in VAT etc and that he doesn't know how he's going to survive. Give me a break. He has businesses all over Waterford like Boxworks Revolutions Oscars etc and is making millions. He is never going to close down no matter what happens, I'd put my life on that. He's just looking for free publicity when he plays the poor mouth on local media. Same with Cormac Cronin...my business is on a cliff edge..I don't know how I'll survive the winter..and so on. And miraculously both of them have survived despite claiming otherwise the last 10 years.

    I would be sorry to see Weatherspoons go. Yes it can get a bit scummy but you don't have to stay all night. It's cheap but decent food and drink. Accept it at its own merits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    I would say businesses in general and the general public will always say this when taxes go up or a penny is taken off them, give them a penny and they say its an insult, take away a penny and they say they don't know how they'll get through this winter, its in peoples nature to complain (when asked) be it a vox pop or whatever, if its a few quid extra in their dole or pension or this or that they say oh its an insult to us sure what can ye do with that, (which ends up costing 100's of millions to the mug tax payer) take the same amount away and they are crying.

    Hotels are the same in general, creaming it across the board full every night then moaning about the VAT rates.

    Ye cant win is the answer😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    The begrudgery page in full swing. Chips on both shoulders obligatory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    That's a fair point and I know the industry has to make a public point about changes to taxes etc lest it looks like they are just accepting these changes with no arguments.

    However there are plenty of small businesses and cafes etc out there who dont have the clout of millions behind them and they quietly and sadly shut up shop despite their best efforts but you don't hear from them much in the local media. It's always Flash and Bodega saying they won't survive another winter. It dilutes their argument saying this year after year and still having thriving businesses.

    It would be nice I'd the other shops got that publicity saying they are only a month away from closing. That might just be the impetus for people to give them more business or a new supplier to reach out etc. People will still be able to buy burgers in Revolutions in 2050!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    I would also agree with you on that one, its always the big organisations who make the big noises (generally) because at the end of the day the squeaky wheel gets the oil, the small businesses just get on with it and suffer on, again I'm talking in general, I'm sure there are many exceptions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Gillman1998


    I think the end is nigh for Wetherspoons. I was in there yesterday afternoon and there was an air of desolation about the place. There were no ales available, no beef burgers, a couple of the other beers were off and there was a crowd of attitudey 13-15 year olds occupying the room up the steps opposite the coffee station. We actually saw people bringing their own drinks in. The place looks and feels doomed - it was certainly our last visit.

    As a footnote, we went to Tullys and the music, which is usually reliably sound, was the most dire f-filled rappy shite. we are truly f****d if Tullys loses its way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,231 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Causeway taking over Wetherspoons this week apparently

    A lot of stock gone up to Dublin branches



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    I liked Wetherspoons because (other than their nice ales) they invested a heap of money in doing a wonderful job on several very old properties in Waterford. They also had decent maintenance standards which ensured the properties were well kept. The Causeway gRoup properties are disgraceful. The Factory night club looks dreadful, the lack of care on the front entrance is shocking. As for Sinnot's and the buildings around it….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    Not being funny but what were the several buildings that Weatherspoons invested in, in Waterford??? I agree with you and would question why causeway have been allowed to build up what looks like a monopoly, then again how many people were bidding for that building???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    I would say he/she is suggesting that the pub was originally 3 different properties/units ie former Flanagan fish shop at front and former bank and something else at the rear…..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    Flanagans and shop next door in Broad Street, both very early 18th century, plus Bank in Arundel Square, plus city wall running through the line between the properties and archaeology everywhere. They invested a wagon load of money in the Broad Street properties to refurbish and restore them.

    Causeway are creating a bad monopoly. They seem to have no standards at all in presentation or maintenance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭914


    I'd agree, although I never go into Weatherspoons, they did a great job on the buildings mentioned in what was an eye site for years. Even the naming of the pub was a throw back to Waterford history.

    Causeway groups buildings leave a lot to be desired. Muldoons a prime example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    I would agree, The Greenway Manor is a beautiful place but there's something just not right with it, I don't know how they are nowadays for managers but they did go through quite alot of them early on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭Valhalla90


    Yeah the Greenway Manor also for me has something missing. You can tell there’s shortcuts being done everywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭iseegirls




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Boooourns


    Where are the causeway group getting the money to buy up all of these places?

    I don't trust them to run anything to a good standard. I've yet to hear anything positive about them, something is off about what they're doing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    I was close to taking a senior role with them before, I spoke with a few of my contacts, business owners and the like and on that basis I turned down the role, apparently, business people who went bust and then one brother went to America made good and that's the financial backer/business partner, don't want to mention their names but most people know who they are. I don't know if this was a loaded question, but there were rumors about the backers but they are just that.



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