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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Kerry holstein friesian breeders sale of heifers by Taaffe under way in Gortatlea...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,479 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Any of them making 1000?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭Grueller




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭awaywithyou




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Watching them now. They are a credit to the farmers who bred them. Great milk and lovely looking. They are well back in prices, when you consider the quality



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Absolutely. €1800 a piece would fill a trailer for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,386 ✭✭✭alps


    Fabulous looking stock.

    They'd get a fair shock if they were brought home to this house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,293 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Had my eye on a calf ….opens a few days post last night ….neighbour had few reactors ….my herd restricted till I test so I’m out …some serious stock been sold at I won’t say small money compared to what they’d usually go for it is small …still far in excess to what s been sold thru most marts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    What kind of money did they average? Had they ebi figures too ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Only standout animal that made good money was the smasher of a white renegade heifer at 3450 i think, he's throwing some stock...

    The two red heifer calves where a admiration aswell

    Would they be back 700 plus on last years sale as a average, the life is been sucked out of the trade with the weather at the minute



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,293 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    I’d of said back an easy 500 …that heifer you mentioned. Was a beaut alright ….I’ve a few Conway calves this spring whos a renegade son …they look the part so far anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Have renegade heifers milking this spring their some animals to pump out milk, quiet as lambs too in the parlour



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,867 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    I mentioned last week that I had the vet with a couple of cows one mastitis and the other is a blind cow that developed pneumonia it looks like both will pull through but both are practically dry.i have too many cows anyway so I was thinking today that I could ship them off to an out block but will they stay dry and give me a chance to flesh them a little .withdrawal period negates factory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Did you check for mycoplasma



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭straight


    Ihfa have more sales coming up in March. I never buy anything but I'm tempted with the bargains available....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    That pure holstein stuff is to soft most come from tmr herds better to buy from real commercial farms some of the stuff at them sales wouldnt last a week on my farm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭straight


    They'd do fine here anyway. They are not pure holstein



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Danny healy ray


    did some lads not show up or did they take the stock home seems that way from looking at the catalogue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,968 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Yeah I totted up the ones that were sold and they averaged over 2000 per head- was there a lot unsold or did they not show up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,968 ✭✭✭stanflt


    I’d love to buy some of your stock they sound awesome


    could you by any chance put up a few pics of your best milk recorded cows- im willing to pay savage money for 9000litre plus cows with 5% fat and 4% protein



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Danny healy ray


    did a suck calf make 1300 I didn't see the sale live



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Watched some of it. A lot unsold at €17-€1850 while I was watching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    There was probably no one bidding, farmer told the auctioneer the reserve and auctioneer bid it up himself.

    I saw George Chandler doing that and the farmer decided to take less than the reserve,

    Everyone knew of course what was after happening but it was embarassing for George



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Kerry's latest forward price down to 38 from 43 last month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Kingston had 7- 8 heifers in it, I don't think any sold the last few I seen weren't even bid on, where bid to a 1000 euro nice stock but really poor solids



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,761 ✭✭✭Grueller


    If that comes to be the true picture its time to pull the gate.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,867 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Back in the 80 s friend mine decided he was going to start upgrading the herd and went to a local pedigree sale and bought a heifer.this herd had bulls in ai and all .he had spoken to the owner and he had picked out a heifer that the owner promised him would do 8 gallons he bought her and brought her home but all she was doing was just over 5 gallons so he rang the owner and the question he was asked was how much was he feeding her. He said 12 lbs but the owner told she should get 25 lbs if he wanted 8 gallons.that same herd is now crossbred.i have been to a good few sales over the years and its always the same,stock tuned up to the last by some auctioneers agent,a few buyers down from the "north",the auctioneer would be blowing once in a lifetime opportunity,famous cow family ,fabulous stock etc but at the end of the day their chaff is no different to your chaff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    It's a bizarre situation re Irish holstein herds, breeding cinderalla cows, for type/litres and totally disregarding solids/health/fertility that the Americans are now solely focusing on in their commercial operations, they are going for a smaller hardier type holstein with solids thats still pumping out the milk...

    Had to laugh at aidan in the comic re maintance figures and a minus 15 bull would breed a 700kgs plus cow, its bulls***t average mature weight of cows here would be 600kgs and my maintance index would be -15....

    Renegade for instance daughter proofs are 13661 litres at 4.3bf/3.3pr, in our around 1050kgsms, its unbelievable the genetic gain in solids in America the past decade but you'll still have the icbf/journal running down international bulls like above



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭ginger22


    The thing is it's horses for courses. Those North American holsteins wouldn't be much use to a man expecting to run them on grass only.

    On the other hand was talking to the account from a nationwide firm that do a lot of farmers accounts and he said that it was the Jersey cross bred herds that suffered the biggest production drop last year. But I suppose the power wasn't in the grass and those lads wouldn't feed meal or indeed those type of cows wouldn't respond to meal feeding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Who's running cows on grass only, over a ton of meal is going in to most cows on farms along with maize etc on the shoulders of the year, crossing your average Irish holstein back to a good solid American bull like westcoast river will give you a brilliant animal, that will work away with zero issues where cows are been fed correctly all through their lactation and will go back in calf h



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