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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Can he go to jail if found guilty? Would it be grounds for re impeachment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,097 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Of course he can go to jail. Be some kind of special Jail that allows secret service protection; house arrest, something. Personally I think he'd be fine in solitary @ Gitmo but that's me.

    As for whether it's grounds for a future impeachment, he'd need to be elected again, then the whole impeachment process kicked off and completed. It's not necessarily grounds for re-impeachment, that's up to Congress to decide. If the tragedy occurs and he's reelected, and Congress is still functioning after that, I'd imagine once there's a Democratic majority in the House TFG'll have done something that's grounds for another impeachment, but without 66 Senators that'd vote for it, it's pointless. Remember he inspired a mob that might've murdered a few of those Senators given a chance, and they still voted against impeaching him. Mitch McConnell, who said TFG was guilty of stirring up the mob, whose own wife was disparaged after she resigned from TFG's cabinet after the insurrection, who endured 4 years of snipes and insults from TFG, voted not to impeach and just recently endorsed TFG for reelection. And he's the minority leader; he's resigning that gig and what's lined up is likely even less spineful. Hopefully his replacement's stupider and can't conceive of stunts that got Gorsuch on the SCOTUS.

    Impeachment's too high a bar to reach - attempted now what, 4 times since the Civil war, 2 of which were Trump, and all of which failed to convict?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭amandstu


    If reelected would he still be jailable? Would it just be an academic judgement ,disregarded by his followers and unenforceable by the State of Georgia??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,097 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Well, there isn't any prior art, but it seems like he'd be jailable. As for his followers, they only do what he tells them to do so I doubt they'd agree.

    It's enforceable - Georgia has state Marshals, they can haul people off to Jail. It would be interesting to watch though and I'm sure if it reaches that point, whatever laws/regs the Marshals adhere to would be challenged in court by one of TFG's crack legal team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,662 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump doesn't give a toss about precedent where it doesn't benefit him. If he won the presidency again, his first order of business would be to get the proceedings against him quashed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,965 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I gather he hasn't put up money so much as he has put up assets in escrow for the appeals against his fines, so if he was elected would said assets remain in his possession and the cases suspended for the duration of his term? Could E. Jean Carroll lose out if he hides behind the presidency until he dies?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Why would the appeals be held up due to the presidency? The judgements have already been made against him, if he wants to argue over them then that's OK, but no reason for the appeals to sit around waiting for 4 years because he's doing something else.

    I can see the point behind new charges not being brought against a sitting president, although don't agree with It. That will presumably be a courtesy that gets thrown out if the Supreme Court decides that presidents are not God/ Kings/ Emperors and subsequent wrongdoing by a president can then be dealt with more promptly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,965 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Was a civil case not suspended entirely for his presidency before based on some dodgy logic about no active cases against the president? Would an appeal not "keep the ball in play" regarding handing over any assets, even if he has already been judged liable? Could his assets be protected on the grounds that he would be in the pocket of a Democratic witch hunt or whatever he wants to call it? I'd fully expect him to come at it from any angle, no matter how tenuous. We've seen the guy wriggle out of all sorts of trouble and nothing brings him down. How stupid can this get and will it all fall apart before election night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,859 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I swear to god - he's like the insane drunk at the end of the bar with all his mental bullshit theories

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's still having trouble putting the 500 million or so together... 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,859 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Here's the type of hack Trump will install when he gets in.

    "Integrity" - One word he absolutely knows nothing about.


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Watching those videos with no audio and the automatic subtitles, you'll think you're having a stroke.

    Wrote it off as conspiracy but really buying into the idea Trump's brain is rotting and maybe it's just the cognitive decline has been manifest since 2016, people are just shrugging it off as Donnie being Donnie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Given his behaviour and attitudes, it certainly ticks a lot of boxes. Something's not right, man's a lunatic.

    Oh and let's pause a moment to "appreciate" that interview was on Newsmax, the presenter nodding along like Trump's the wisest sage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,703 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Trump/Abe Simpson tells a story about Bill Clinton keeping audio tapes of some interviews someone conducted with him in his sock drawer, and turns it into 'Bill Clinton smuggled out classified material in his socks'

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,859 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Bill Clinton smuggled out classified material in his socks, while wearing an onion on his belt, which was the style at the time..

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    In further evidence of the growing challenge Trump has in November , Nikki Haley got 78,000 votes in the Georgia Primary , despite not being on the ballot. Trump lost Georgia in 2020 by ~12,000 votes..

    Roughly 15% of GOP Primary voters voted for someone other than Trump despite him being the only candidate still in the race.

    By comparison , Biden won over 95% of the vote and he technically still has an opponent in the race (Marianne Williamson ,who took ~3% of the vote).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,683 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I would say that a lot of Haley's votes were likely mail-in sent in before she dropped out, but it's definitely still likely a lot of people voted for Haley instead of Trump even after she dropped out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,859 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    He's got Newsmax this time.

    He had Fox last time.

    Hard to see that won't have an effect on his performance this year.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That's a fair point , but the underlying issue remains.

    There is a solid seam of GOP voters that do not intend to vote for Trump in November and he is doing nothing to address that , in fact he is doubling down on the "if you're not 100% MAGA I don't want you" position.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hillary acid washed everything in a ten mile radius to delete her files. But so help you god if you tell a Trumper, centrist TM, whatever, that Trump told people to inject bleach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,683 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh definitely, and even if only one-fifth of those who voted for Haley either vote for Biden or don't vote at all, that's more than Trump lost Georgia by in 2020.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Half of me is hoping Cannon dismisses the documents case today so the DOJ can appeal it and get a proper judge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,632 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    With the orange jumpsuits he would look like the invisible man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,659 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    US firm that paid indicted FBI informant tied to Trump associates, records reveal

    Alexander Smirnov was paid $600,000 in 2020 – the same year he allegedly began lying to FBI about Bidens’ role in Ukraine business

    Well! I for one am shocked that Trump related orgs had a hand in paying the man arrested for lying to the FBI and with fabricating the Biden bribery charges. Truly shocked!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    TMK, Trump puts up assets to the bond company - Chubb Insurance - they in turn lodged a cash bond to the Court, Chubb charge Trump a healthy premium for the privilege and they are holding the baby with regard to collecting funds from Trump.

    Appeal fails, Carroll gets paid out in cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,626 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    That's some research, by The Guardian.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Georgia is an open primary state so you can't say for sure those 78 000 voters are disenfranchised Republican voters, they may simply be dem voters content to use this as another opportunity to vote against Trump as the stakes weren't exactly high in the Dem primary.

    Regarding Trump, yes their are definite alarm bells for him most notably suburban voters trending hard towards Biden and Georgia has been an unhappy hunting ground for him previously, but ultimately on Tuesday he got 500 000 votes while Biden got 275000 votes in what were both dead primaries.

    Trump had a better night than Biden even if you want to add Haleys 75k votes to Biden's tally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,859 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Screenshot_20240315-063953.png

    This glazed ham of a trump supporter posted a tweet which seemed.... ambiguous?

    And then had to explain what he actually meant, as he was getting unmercifully mocked as a result

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,567 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    How do two complete loopers manage to get such levels of power and money? Or is it that such power and/or money cause the loopiness?



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