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March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,499 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And accepts responsibility for it!!!

    Who do these people think they are? The people are responsible for it. The people voted and said no. And here the government’s leader is making out that the result being “wrong” is down to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭calculator


    I wish I had food and drinks in for a party watching this. It really is gratifying 😁🍿🍕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭tom23


    Voting NO for both

    I swear to god if I had to choose between Mary Lou and Leo I’d begrudgingly choose Loe because Mary is a complete and utter spoofer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Voting NO for both

    Definitely in that camp , hopefully the prospects of 3 sf have receded in Donegal but the quality of any politicians up here is so low.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,385 ✭✭✭archfi


    Voting NO for both

    Yis need to get rid of that sweatbox spoofer Pringle as well!

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,788 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Voting NO for both

    This woman in the wheelchair is dead right. Catherine Cox from Family Carers Ireland let all us carers down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Voting NO for both

    Feeling proud to be Irish today. We told the government they are not good enough and we don't trust them. They got a free pass during covid and now they are emerging blinking in the daylight and the country has completely changed. **** it, they've been getting a free pass since the late 90s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Voting NO for both

    He used to be useful in terms of local issues, helped me on occasion but in the last few years he seems to have forgotten that !

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,343 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Voting YES for both

    The government and most of the opposition represent the vast, vast majority of voters from 2020. 82% of the vote in 2020 went to FF, FG, SF, Greens, Labour or Soc Dem.

    Are you suggesting the other 18% (which includes solidarity who supported yes/no) and a range of independents and others is the voters being ignored?

    Or have a large portion of the 82 gone elsewhere since 2020?



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  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Allyson Easy Snowball


    Voting YES for both

    to be fair since 2020 the gubberment has had almost permanent egg on their face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭calculator


    What is the story with the lack of coverage on rte?



  • Posts: 24,009 Cecelia Jolly Rifle


    TTE are in hiding for many reasons, cawlur 😉😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,000 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I’ve said one person on twitter say that Ireland is a “misogynistic hellhole” now. So it’s a hellhole because the majority of people either didn’t agree with the proposed changes or didn’t feel the changes went far enough or weren’t clear enough ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,862 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Because it’s not the trendy result they and their pals wanted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,888 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I am voting YES (family amendment)

    There is a programme on now from 15.30 to16.30 talking to all parties and discussing botes that have been counted .

    Can't see anything later because..Rugby, GAA and UEFA ...of course .

    There is no coverage , zero , on any other channel .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,862 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Indeed. She is a dreadful cabbage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The bulk of the electorate stayed at home because they didn't give a shte either way or couldn't figure these referenda out.

    The vast majority is clearly not against the parties that the vast majority voted for and the polls say the vast majority will vote for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,343 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Voting YES for both

    So they planned in advance to not have results because they expected a double no?

    More likely, it wasn't a very captivating campaign, there isn't much to cover on the counts as it's just 2 results essentially, and it's not going to have any major cultural changes to society if it passed or failed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭calculator


    Christ almighty. Ronán Mullen. Kill me now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 Jorge Jorgesson


    Congratulations to those who voted no. I wasnt expecting it to be so one sided.

    One question I have is regarding the pre referendum reports of opinion polls hinting at a landslide Yes. Did these polls even exist? Were they just pushing a Yes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,000 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Why did Mary Lou get heckled outside Dublin castle ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,253 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both

    Better than the other fella... Not a happy camper and close to a tantrum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,499 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Polls had large percentage undecided. It was always going to be a no. There was next to no desire for any change related to a quite pointless referendum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,253 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both

    The lack of coverage is a message in itself alright. Normally the count updates and commentary would be on all day on RTE News/One.

    Today it's very obvious that the bare minimum is being done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I wonder if there's an element of a backlash resulting from pushback against the Trans agenda that was the flavour of the month, and so strongly supported by Varadkar and O'Gorman among others not so long ago?

    At the same time I think it's worth remembering that the largest cohort was not the NO voters but the non-voters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭jackboy


    The electorate have to vote for someone. If no party represents the electorate then those parties will still get elected. Thats one reason why these parties have become so arrogant and were caught by surprise today.



  • Posts: 24,009 Cecelia Jolly Rifle


    I have in a Dover Sole from Marks&Spencer and am making a potato parmentier accompaniment. Nice butter crust apple pie for afters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,888 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I am voting YES (family amendment)

    I would have voted yes/ no and been very strong that I was against the 42 because it was sexist , ableist and absolved the government responsibility to provide supports to both carers in the home outside the home, and individuals with a disability who want to live their lives independently and as fully as possible .

    Both amendments were badly written, badly constructed and did VERY LITTLE to improve equality and supports in our society.

    The government have lost because most people could see that it was just a sop to equality and hypocritical dissolution of women , mothers and carer's rights ..we would all still have to go to court to get any provisions from these amendments and it is very possible that the second amendment in particular would have mitigated against ordinary carers looking for access to aid respite etc

    The Women's Council Ireland and Family Carer's Ireland need to learn from this ..both have lost ground and respect from their own supporters over this .

    I think it's a mistake to label this as an anti government response ,maybe among some voters, but the majority would feel that this was rushed ,badly explained ,and badly conceived, and a very confusing campaign .

    Referendums don't tend to alter voters opinions as to government parties in General Elections and are not/ have not ever been an indicator of general voter preferences .

    Changes to the Constitution need to be clearer and worth doing ..we have seen before how badly written changes can have a debilitating effect on important laws here in the past .

    Complete waste of our tax money



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    It does look like MLMD has lost her touch now. She did a great job for SF in making them respectable to vote for among the Dublin middle classes, and among women generally but over the last year or more she has definitely not managed to gauge the pulse of the nation.



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