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March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

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  • #842
    riddles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭riddles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534

    Leo is channeling his inner Enoch Burke here!



  • #843
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868534#Comment_121868534

    He really needs to go. FG would do well to replace him with a new leader before the next GE.



  • #844
    tom23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    Voting NO for both

    He really doesn’t give a ****. Shure why would he? he is like a bold child constantly testing the rules. gets away with murder.



  • #845
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    I Voted No for both.



  • #846
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Voting NO for both

    Indo reporting an estimated 25% turnout nationally



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  • #847
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121863752#Comment_121863752

    No. There often isn't.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #848
    tom23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    Voting NO for both

    That has to be the lowest in a long time if not all time?



  • #849
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868749#Comment_121868749

    Didn’t have any- I guarantee you if the establishment narrative was going to be voted for we’d have exit polls



  • #850
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Voting NO for both

    Thing is they’ll come out and say it’s the far right, Russian bots or some sh1te that cause no/no if it is no/no. But it’s not, it’s that they did it half arsed, it wasn’t clear and they just treat the electorate with absolute disdain. Someone recently said to me ‘I’m not far right, but I’m not fair wrong’ it’s stuck with me. Because when I look at everything this shower are doing and making a balls it and then crying ‘far right’ as an excuse it’s bullsh1t.



  • #851
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121865365#Comment_121865365

    I don't think a No Vote On the care referendum can be fully written as conservative Ireland at all. Many many people voted no on the care referendum for human rights and Liberal reasons.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #852
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868769#Comment_121868769

    Which is strange in itself IMO. Either no one in the media/Government cares, or they're afraid of the answers.



  • #853
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868756#Comment_121868756

    Probably, but ultimately pointless unfortunately.

    As I said in the Government thread last night, rules and accountability are only for the "peasants" and others in our leaders minds.



  • #854
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Voting NO for both

    So we have high turn out in selected areas reported after RTE spent all day reporting low turn out.

    No exit polls.

    No tally people.

    Very little TV coverage with RTE showing 10.30 to 11.30 only.



  • #855
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both

    Ultimately there should also be a minimum (but high bar) level for turnouts/participation in referendums and elections.

    If indeed the overall turnout is expected to be 40% (as reported by the IT this morning) then that should automatically require a rerun or failure of the amendment.

    Only if a clear national majority have voted for something should it be passed.



  • #856
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Anything I’m seeing on Twitter is indicating a very strong No No trend already. These kind of yes no referendums you get a feel of the results very quickly.



  • #857
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Looking like a very strong No No- so proud of everyone that campaigned and voted no- despite the avalanche of establishment bias and caricatures. The fallout is going to be delicious



  • #858
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Voting NO for both

    https://twitter.com/eric_nelligan/status/1766395847628263735?t=lZrnNOhMXqyEdlorcov81Q&s=19



  • #859
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869000#Comment_121869000

    Yea, afraid of the answers which they are going to get 12 hours later anyway....



  • #860
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869019#Comment_121869019

    I don't think encouraging people not to vote is a good idea tbh. If people are too lazy to vote they need to accept there are going to be consequences to that.



  • #861
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Voting NO for both

    Former Labour politician Kevin Humphreys says it's leaning towards a no on early boxes in Dublin South Central...but remember, it's still very early days. As per Irish Indo



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  • #862
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869012#Comment_121869012

    Tallies are patchy.

    There is some in places and none in others.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #863
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869063#Comment_121869063

    No difference. The trend is too heavy to make any impact



  • #864
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,715 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869061#Comment_121869061

    Almost anybody I've talked to has said they'll be voting no no, anecdotal but I'm starting to think that's the most likely outcome



  • #865
    cute geoge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Voting YES for both

    I did clerk in a rural village booth and can say imo it was a decesive no vot maybe as high as 80% so the result will boiil down to the diference in the rural/urban devide .Dublin working class with strong no so at this stage the result is only looking one way!!



  • #866
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,461 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    Liberal wealthy south Dublin areas are barely 50:50 yes no so you can take this one to the bank as a No No



  • #867
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,715 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869019#Comment_121869019

    They had this rule in UL for any student union votes, think it was a 15% of the student population threshold

    People who didn't want something to change just ran "don't vote" campaigns and often nothing got done for the benefit of the majority

    Similarly we can't have minorities in this country dictating how the majority live



  • #868
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Voting NO for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869058#Comment_121869058

    Or maybe it would force politicians to bring a higher standard to the electorate rather than either just presuming it'll pass anyway ("be grand!") , or being so arrogant/out of touch to think that people will just take their word for it.


    If/when these 2 are rejected it'll be on the basis of the complete mess that was made of...

    - the wording

    - the messaging and explanation/justification

    - the advertising/campaigning


    That's entirely on the Government, not the electorate.



  • #869
    SaoPaulo41
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Voting NO for both

    Glasnevin Tally here from Dublin North West


    43% Yes 57% No - Family


    30% Yes 70% No - Care



  • #870
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,899 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am voting YES (care amendment)

    I was Yes Yes last week but quickly changed to No No during the debates and interviews. And to be fair I learned a fair bit about it on Boards. Delighted it will be a No No. The government really are useless.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • #871
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    Voting YES for both
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869120#Comment_121869120

    Not bothering to show up to vote is entirely on the electorate. If people aren't happy with the wording, messaging or anything else then get off thr couch and vote to reject it. Laziness should not be rewarded or encouraged.



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