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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    Am I losing my mind or was RoD playing in the full back line the last 10 mins?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Ryan was cornerback and supporting him was Tommy conroy and Cillian on and off .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I was 50/50 on EMcL up to now weighing up his pace and power versus wastage and fouling. But I think now I'd play him as at least he is hard running towards goal. Anything is better than the laboured lateral play we've had from defence which won't cause any problems to the top teams. Hopefully his injury will clean up soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Well job done against the Rossies. I'm delighted with how things are going this year. Nothing flashy or anything to suggest we're giving it 100% but we've 3 wins on the board and the last two games can be used to give fringe or returning players valuable game time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭crusd


    At this stage if we are not careful we will end up in a league final.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I really don't see the harm in making a league final when they are playing New York the next week.

    It would take a catastrophic set of circumstances to see this Mayo panel lose to New York.

    It should really be a formality.

    Plus I'd like to see them be competitive v Derry in a few weeks and in a final possibly.

    Derry like Mayo are being touted as just below Dublin and Kerry, so I'd like to see how Mayo would get on against them.

    If Mayo wish to avoid the league final while also performing on the field they need Kerry to keep winning, because that would keep it a three way tie with Dublin on top by scoring difference, Mayo have the head to head v Dublin and always will have since they beat them in round two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Yeah I wouldn’t mind us getting to a league final but I wouldn’t be too bothered if we missed out either.

    Aside from that, it’s always nice to beat Roscommon, even if we were below par last night. A lot of that could be put down to conditions but some of our passing was poor enough quality, making the recipient having to do more than they should have in order to collect.

    I’m less inclined to be listening to some commentators continued calls for giving Towey game time. He has had chances and hasn’t really impressed me a lot when he’s had the opportunities. No doubt he’s a good club player but this is different gravy. Maybe he’s more suited to harder ground. I suppose if he’s not given game time then the Richie Feeney effect comes into play and he gets better in the eyes of some the less he plays.

    Tommy also needs to start troubling the scoreboard though he certainly made more of an impact when he came on.

    Eoghans injury is such a kicker given he was having such a good game. He does lack in some of the final footballing touches but his runs up the left wing were causing the Roscommon lads awful bother, he was burning them for pace on a night that wasn’t made for the speedy player. I have to say I really do like Stephen Coen - he’s so understated, rarely makes a mistake and has quite a physical presence. It’s easy to see why he’s Captain material. Jordan also did well and really has become such an important player for us. Enda was very good as well, and Ryan was his usual best. Donnacha McHugh did very well also.

    All the positives come with the health warning that the opposition were poor, despite them having had so many collective training sessions. They have reasonably talented forwards but I think their management is more concerned with the sound of his own voice than getting the best from his players. If he spent more time coaching them how to play rather than going down and feigning head injuries he might get a better tune out of them. Methinks he may be angling for a way out of his current role with an eye on a role in his home county.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brickenden kicked a wide in the first half, I can't remember where exactly from but it might have been a medium percentage shot rather than a high or low percentage one.

    Anyway in the second half he is running down the right wing, loads of space in front of him and as he's getting closer and closer I'm shouting "don't shoot" at the TV.

    The problem for Brickenden was that he was running out of options other than having to shoot, no one was showing for the ball.

    Eventually he got a messy pass off to Conroy who then won a free.

    If don't want your full back taking shots, give him some options not to have to take the shot.

    A bit like in Tralee, no one was looking for that ball he won off the mark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,566 ✭✭✭naughto


    How piss poor where the rossies in the 2nd half I think it happened a few times where we had the ball in our own back line there wasn't one tackle made on us untill the forward line and even then it was lacking any sort of power or intensity.

    Is it 3 players out now with hamstring problems ?hate seeing that injury itan go just as quick again when they return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,644 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Pretty sure he kicked it with his left as well. The miss in Tralee certainly didn't dent his confidence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Good win last night although Roscommon were very poor in second half so I wouldn't be getting too excited. A few things in particular that I noticed at the match:

    - ROD was excellent but early in the second half he was 2nd receiver for a kickout and carried the ball from our 30 well into their half. We have 10+ other players who can do this job better than him and very few who can do his job closer to goal

    - too many players taking a solo without looking up. I wouldn't blame him too much as he's so young but for both of mchugh's points, he could have shot without taking a solo; against better teams, the time wasted on that solo will be used to bottle him up

    - Aidan was man on man on several occasions inside and not once did we let a ball in on top of him; even if he did nothing with it, it'd keep the backs honest and leave a little extra space further out

    - second game running that Cillian has looked his age



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭crusd


    It was a bit of a facetious comment given the way the GAA have completely devalued the league by not giving a gap to championship. The league is a potentially great competition, and the fact that all teams seem to care about now is relegation and promotion is sad. Nobody is actually bothered whether they win the thing or not



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Have to agree. I can’t imagine Allianz as sponsors are delighted with how the GAA are entirely negating the league as a competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The over-soloing thing is something I've been highlighting and results in missed opportunities when a player runs out of space. Overall though I felt there was more heads up football on Saturday and the ball was moved forward with greater urgency, especially in the first half.

    I'm convinced more than ever that the league format should become the championship - the best teams playing each other week after week. It's a no brainer and would boost attendances.

    1 - January - Scrap the pre-season tournaments and give the colleges the month to themselves.

    2 - Then have the provincial competition which gives a chance to some teams to get a bit of silverware who are not at the level to win sam maguire.

    3 - Then the All Ireland league format competition with divisions 1 and 2 competing for Sam Maguire and 3 and 4 with their own competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭franklyon


    Is Padraig o Hora injured, have not heard any mention of him since start of the league



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh



    Was injured at the start of the league and due to be back in contention around the Kerry game (Round 3).

    No official word of a setback or another injury, so while that's possible he's probably just fighting to get back to 100% and enough match sharpness (in training) to get ahead of McDonnell/Boland/Plunkett/etc for a place on the 26. (McStay also well known over the years for not liking to rush back or risk lads recovering from injury)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Are we sure O’Hora brings anything that we don’t already have and in much younger legs? I’m afraid that he seems to get roasted too often for my liking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes, even a fully fit O'Hora will struggle to make the team and probably even the first choice subs. A great warrior fully committed to the cause but pace is an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I alway thought Swanny would be worth a try at 6 instead of the corner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,644 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I wouldn't be his biggest fan fan and he certainly has had tough days in some big games, but our naivety hasn't helped his cause at the same time. We seem to fail to relaise that man marking the likes of Clifford etc should be a 1.5/2 man job and we leave the likes of O'Hora exposed.

    I think he'll just about scrape in to the 26 man squad, can't see him starting though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    He's usually 6 or 4 depending on who they're playing - typically either marking the best opposition forward (I'd say less so now with Callinan involved) or driving forward from 6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh



    As with a lot of the county lads (the majority of our full back line options, past and present, tend to play half back or midfield at club and our half backs can tend to show up anywhere on the pitch) he tends to play firefighter for Ballina and fill whatever role they need from him on a given weekend. Man marking 3 (if he's a better matchup or Ger Caff isn't playing), attacking 6, wing back or filling in around midfield at various times last year and previous years. He certainly has the strengths and experience to do a job at 6, if or when he's hitting form & fitness at least.

    Interesting to watch Boland getting into the 26 ahead of him. Fantastic young player, great potential for the future but I'm not sure I've ever watched a Stephenites game and thought he'd make a 26 that Swannie didn't, this year at least. You'd have to imagine it's fitness or sharpness related rather than skill, ability or purely performance related (though if I'm wrong the idea of McDonnell and Boland outperforming him in training is even more exciting).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Already safe now regardless of what happens in the next 2 games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Taking a hiding at home from the 3rd best team in the country .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    Haven't see The Chaos for a while!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Derry deserving winners. Not a good day for Reape. Looked ragged at times but some good things also. Tommy's best game in ages



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Some of the same old failings on display there today. Over and back and into cul de sacs before someone goes for a wild swing at the posts. Getting caught with no cover when turned over.

    We were well beaten when it mattered, and only got back in to it when Derry thought they had the game won. Once we got within touching distance, they went up through a gear or two and put some more easy scores on the board.

    I thought the ref was poor today. The one he blew up for the foul on Conroy when he had just got past his man and was bearing down on goal was the highlight. To bring the free all the way out to the sideline was bizarre.



  • Posts: 344 ✭✭ Gloria Rough Sealskin


    Blessing in disguise. Knock the chances of a league final on the head and focus on Connacht. Derry will beat Roscommon and can’t see Dublin losing to Tyrone by anything material enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Think you pretty much summed it up. The lateral play isn't going to get us far. Still best when we throw caution to the wind and attack directly. But then we usually revert back to plan A for the next game.

    One main issue I see is the lack of height and bulk up the spine of the team. Plenty of nice footballers but lacking that bit of power to win dirty ball and to stop the opposition runs up the centre. But we have to go with what we have.

    Tommy much better. If he was a little bit more cynical he could have gone down a few times and earned a black card or 2 against the defenders hanging out of him.

    We are a top 6 team at the moment and that's where we will stay until players develop more.



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