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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Zeugnis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Purist98


    Would see Nicholson as more of a 15 than a wing personally, played there in school and Ireland 19s, as well as the first 20s 6N game last year.

    Any word on how he's getting on out west so far?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kita99


    Cardiff has only 36,7 players. And they seems to emphasiis sizable FWs. It's fundamental law of restruction of all sports in the world. I think maybe Connachtwii select same way. So....There is famous Japanese proverb 'Big is also small'. Look Prendergast. He can work at 7 well. Maybe Connacht will do such a way. I think that Illo can at LHP because he can push straightly at scrum. I dream some day he (LH) and Barrett (TH) go to Ireland squads. And Connacht will rapidly rejuvenade, I think that West > Sam Prendergast partly. Devine, Gavin, Treacy all look excellent. Dan Edwards of Ospreys is only 20 years old and small (175,83) with too little experience. But he was very impressive at vs Ulster match. I think that young guns of Connacht will do same performance if they are given some chances with far harder (than curretly) training duty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭b.gud


    With regards to the 9 situation am I right in saying Macdonald was a loan from Ulster? In that case he could be going back. I could also be misremembering that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    It'd be a shame to see him go. He'd have to be near the top of the list of best singings in recent years. Was it Keane of Pat that brought him in?



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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    His Ulster contract is up this year, you'd imagine he'd be very amenable to an offer if we were to make one, given the current situation up North.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89




  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    I doubt he'll be in a rush back to Ulster to be fourth choice scrum half unless Ulster finally give in and try to convert Doak to outhalf. Unless our coaches think Matthew Devine has developed enough tom be given decent minutes we need the extra player. We seem a little cautious about taking those risks with young players right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Shanahan is being let go apparently so he would be 3rd choice there, but probably unlikely to play many minutes with Cooney and Doak in situ. I think he's 3rd choice here too, judging by the fact he's been left on the bench twice, whereas Reilly got more minutes when on the bench and was also given two starts in SA despite Blade being available. Perhaps if McDonald committed to us for next season Wilkins would invest more minutes into him. I think it's a big risk to run with less than 4 scrumhalves total in the squad, so we will need to sign somebody, either to the academy or senior squad.

    Regarding your last sentence, we seem willing to give young players minutes in the back 5 of the pack and outside backs, but much more hesitant with front rows and half backs. You can see the logic, your halfbacks touch the ball more than anyone else, and it's very hard to win if you're losing the scrum battle badly and/or your hooker is struggling with his darts. It will however make it tough for players in those positions to progress, especially with no A games available.

    Percentage of minutes played by young players* broken down by position:

    Front row - 2.77%

    Lock - 43.35%

    Back row - 53.63%

    Halfback - .22%

    Outside back - 47.18%

    *23 or younger on 01/09/2023

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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    I think that given a choice between developing our young players and importing someone into the fringes of our squad we've tend to pick the conservative second option recently. We chop and change our starting lineup to the extent that young players don't get the best opportunity to play in a settled environment.

    Personally, it's left me thinking that the coaches don't rate the majority of our local young players, and would rather let them try to show promise on the fringes of a larger training squad. I trust them to make those calls far better than me but it doesn't get us any closer to having a strong spine of good local players to build a team around.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Not something I’d be looking to do but is there any chance Ireland would like to see Bealham move to loosehead? Could solve the depth behind Porter and theres Depth at tighthead at both Ireland and Connacht.



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    I don't think that would work out. Finlay's big selling point as a TH is that he brings a lot of workrate, mobility, and handling skill while still being able to lock down a scrum. We've played enough at LH during his early years to know that he's better off emphasising those skills at TH rather than focussing on them at LH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Yeah again not something I’d like to see but just a thought straight after the squad announcement for this week

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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    Some excellent play by Hugh Gavin for the U20s tonight. He's carried hard and passed well when the Ireland attack has put him in good positions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Yeah he should be getting some games for us next season.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    can someone please explain to me how this new concept of topping up international players wages (O'Mahoney and Murray) will work while the province supposedly plays for their wages. We had the IRFU list of players most important to Ireland handed central contracts. Where is this new twist going?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,568 ✭✭✭✭phog


    There has been top ups for ages. To me, it's an in-between CCs and PCs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    I agree. But this is primarily with central contracts. Somewhere in there is a guarantee of a public affairs agreement that would enhance their overall earnings. I have never heard of this addendum being added to a provincial contract.

    I guess this is as ambiguous as RTE wages these days 😂



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    It's typically a six (very optimistic) to eight month recovery. The hamstring tendon graft site is slow to heal too. I've seen a video of him running on a treadmill recently but that's linear cushioned motion, and still a long way from high speed turns on an artificial pitch or rugby contact. Hopefully we'll see him with the lads in a no contact training bib in 6 - 8 weeks time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Bolton out for 4-6 weeks. Injured his ankle falling after that head on head collision v Cardiff. Jennings and Reilly back training but not available this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Ralston + unchanged TOH/Smith then,..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Probably, Ralston is obviously very highly rated, he's played every minute he's been available for this season. The fact that he hasn't scored a try in those 870 mins of rugby concerns me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta


    Whatever, Kilgallen chose to leave he shoudn't be on a teamsheet except emergence anymore IMO



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    It's a shame Bolton has taken another injury just as it looked like he had his body in order.

    I'd expect Ralston to come straight back in on the wing or at 13.

    Scarlets have eight in the Welsh squad including Gareth Davies, Kieran Hardy, Sam Costelow and Ioan Lloyd. With Johnny McNichol still out injured they'll be facing us with their third choice scrum half, third choice outhalf, and third choice fullback unless Gatland releases a player or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Think his defensive work is simply top notch. Which allows others to take the limelight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    If the Farrell leaving rumours are true I’d expect Ralston to be first choice 13 for the rest of the season. Could see Kilgallen come back in for Bolton this week and Hawkshaw on the bench in a 6-2 split.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    What rumours? Is this coming from any reputable sources or just forum chatter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89




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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    Connacht have a queue of centres in our academy with Hugh Gavin already looking like he could make the step up soon. I could see us opening up a path for the next couple of seasons by letting a Tom Daly and possibly Tom Farrell go. Plus, Wilkins has already shown a preference for utility players like Ralston and Hawkshaw who bring lots of technical skill to multiple positions.



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