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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    I think it works the other way too. Even with some rotation, the lads who are playing week in week out will probably have been managing their bodies and mainly doing technical work that doesn't overly tire them. They probably haven't had a notable S&C block since the start of October. I agree that it looks like they got the prep wrong for Cardiff but I can see why they'd switch focus too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,312 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Was just looking at the URC table this morning and noticed Connacht only have 1 try bonus point this season. One of the worst in the league for it only behind the Sharks and Dragons who are the bottom two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Yeah the Glasgow and Bulls games felt like big missed opportunities at the time, hopefully it doesn't cost us.



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    We've left a couple of TBP opportunities behind but we've also played in a lot of matches against the stronger non-Irish teams with a very narrow winning margin. Four of our next five games are strong TBP opportunities if we play well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Our attack structure looks like it's a work in progress, being kind. Very noticeable that the 10's both of them are not passing, they are just moving the ball one man out. We know jack has a great range of passing but is no longer using it. No idea what we are trying to do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    If you watched much of the u20s when Sexton was coaching, in particular at the JRWC, the attack was very similar - lots of short passing to flat runners. That team had such a good pack for the level that playing such a simple shape was viable, I'm not sure we have the same luxury. I don't think I've seen Hanrahan throw a pass more than 5m this season, and I'm not convinced he has it in his locker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,708 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Was looking at the stats myself and there are three teams around us (Stormers, Ospreys, Ulster) who have the same record as us - played 10, won 6, lost 4. The Stormers are currently sixth in the table (on 30 points), we are tenth (on 28). The difference is that they have 6 BPs, we have 4. Very slim margins but making a difference in table placings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Yeah BPs could well be crucial to us by the end of the season.

    Critical to win the home games against Scarlets, Lions, Zebre and away to the Dragons.

    Two try BPs from the above & nabbing a couple of losing BPs against two of Benetton, Leinster, Munster, Stormers and Edinburgh would see us on 50 points and should be enough for the last playoff spot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    I think we will need 53 to make the top 8.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭connachta




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kita99


    Will Connacht win over or get lbp at least Benetton away? (Maybe Benetton will use near best members) I think that Connacht need super-hard physical「training」.(not enough hard working) You looked at LHP of Cardiff who played 80min full time although containing above 130kg. Maybe he has been physical hard training through 6N breaking time.He was very strong especially at the maul. Connacht struggled it. On the other hand, Benetton has a very strong FW. So from the next game, Connacht should select some bigger FWs as possible. I think that a few backrowers will reach to the standard of the URC physical revel. Whithout win at the physical fight, Connacht cannot win. (for example, 6=Dowling, 7=SHL, 8=Prendergast.) And then Bealham will be back, so Connacht's mauling(both atack and defence) will become stronger than current pack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I would like to see us try Niall Murray at 6 as an edge forward, the same way Leinster and Munster use Baird and Ahern. He played a bit of back row for Ireland u20s so wouldn't be completely new to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    This is actually a good idea. He’s got blistering pace for a lock and would add serious threats at lineout time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kita99


    I think that this idea deserves to test at some actual matches because he looks to have very high learning abirity. and he canrun fast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,312 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Rumoured that Connacht will be releasing 8 players ahead of next season. Presumably some at least due to cost cutting with reduced gate revenue with no Clan Stand next season.

    Obviously upgraded facilities badly needed but it may affect the quality and depth available on the pitch over the next couple years until work is completed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Thornbury will probably be released. Duggan and McCormick don't play much, so very possible. Boyle is on a 1 year contract? Daly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Matthew Burke, Oran McNulty and McCormack are 3 who come to mind who don't seem to be getting any game time the last couple of seasons. Tom Daly seems to be struggling for game time also, same with Boyle who was very unlucky with his face injury as he seemed to be playing well and working his way back to form.

    Id be hopeful we would keep him and Thornbury but hasn't been any word of Gavin since he came before Christmas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    I'd add Mcnamara to that list too. He seems to be out in the cold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,873 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    There are 8 players in the senior squad with less than 80 minutes played this season, which suggests to me that we have some wiggle room. We also basically never use our academy so could lean on those lads to prop up the bottom of the depth chart. I can imagine the 8 released looking something like:

    Matthew Burke

    Dominic Robertson-McCoy

    Gavin Thornbury

    Oisin McCormack

    Tom Daly

    Liam McNamara

    With perhaps a few surprises like Boyle, Tom Farrell, or Tiernan O'Halloran.



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    Around eight players moving on sounds about normal for a season regardless of stadium plans. We have a lot of decent squad players, a limited number of regular season games, and we're not losing many to International duty.



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  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dax Gorgeous Wing


    He probably hasn't had the minutes he'd like this season. We're generally a better team with him involved even if we can select three better individual players in the back row.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,708 ✭✭✭serfboard


    On Tiernan, I haven't seen anyone who has been used as full back doing as good a job as he has been. I'd be surprised if he was let go, but I'd also like to see some succession planning there because he's 33 now and won't be around forever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,993 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well they can put together any plan for full back they like so long as they leave Mack Hansen out of it.

    Nothing annoys me more than one of the best in the world at one position being moved to another.

    I hope we make the final eight in the URC and I'll accept that. Then they need to decide if it's the squad or coaching that needs fixing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Cordero is under contract next year too, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Cordero is as signed as a fullback. Apart from that you’d have Porch, Mack , Smith and Jennings who can cover there and the lads in the academy West and Nicholson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    West played outhalf for the U20s and Nicholson was on the wing.

    For me, a 15 should have a great defensive brain, consistency under the high ball, an excellent tackler, and have an eye for a break. We just need to clone Hugo Keenan, he'd be perfect ;)

    I'm keen on Jenkins but would be open to trying Smith or even Hawkshaw there. Porch is too inconsistent to be the last line of defence. I agree that TOH has done a good job there of late, redeeming himself after some iffy periods. But, yes, there should be a succession plan and a bench spot reserved a full backs understudy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    I'd be very sorry to see Thornbury released. It was obvious when Joyce was signed that there was going to be a bottleneck at lock. With such congestion, I'm still not sure that was a necessary signing even though Joe has been good. Gavin has been out injured so long that it's easy to forget that he packed down with Joe McCarthy for Ireland A against New Zealand just fifteen months ago. I'd keep him.

    It hasn't been commented on, but we have been following an insane policy at LH relying almost exclusively on Buckley and Dooley. They have been given all the minutes except for 91 for Duggan. Burke has been left on the shelf. This isn't a sensible approach to squad depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    If there are eight moving on, does that include Kilgallen?

    Another player who will certainly have offers is Hurley Langton. Not sure who else will be in the same boat.

    We don't know what JJ's contract length was, so given all the moving parts around Irish 10s, he's not nailed on either.

    Oran McNulty was being groomed for 15 I thought, but has fallen off the map.

    Butler or Boyle, but not both, two great servants of the club, but now with SOB and Sean Jansen for competition.

    Lastly, do we need three Senior 9s with Mattie Devine in the Academy? Next season will be his third year. So McDonald or Reilly, but not both maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    West has been playing for buccs at 15 recently. Nicholson was a fullback but played on the wing because of injuries and McErlean being the starting 15



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Any word on when Cordero will be fit?



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