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Meanwhile on the Roads...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    It would be nice to see the same level of visible Garda response as happened in the aftermath of the Dublin riots but I wouldn't hold my breath. With the riots, it was very easy for society to ringfence the perpetrators - "scumbags", "feral" - in other words "not us". With road safety, the societal view seems to be that the perpetrators are just us on an "off day" - "shur, anyone could make a mistake", "there, but for the grace of god" etc. The continued "othering" of the victims doesn't help.

    Forty years ago, there was a spate of joyriding in the country. There were demands from all corners to have Spike Island prison opened up to lock all these lads away. (Birching was another popular suggestion IIRC). At the time, Senator Brendan Ryan made a very valid point - there were few, if any deaths due to the joyriding but in the same time frame, drunk drivers had killed several people. However there was no cry for convicted drunk drivers be to interned or flogged because those drivers were "respectable" members of society - accountants, solicitors, judges, priests etc.

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,901 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Share the road they said.

    Indo - A motorist in Co Kildare has been arrested under suspicion for driving under the influence after Gardaí noticed a pint in the car’s cup holder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    drunk woman kills a pregnant woman while running over 3 pedestrians. f**king hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    How unfortunate that one of the absolute tiny minority of motorists who do anything wrong on the road - 'hard pressed fella jus tryna make a livin' - happened to run into one of the tiny minority of Gardai out and about who could be bothered to police RTA offences. Very bad luck.

    Or... this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of s**te behaviour on the roads that goes uncommented and unchecked every single day. "Use the f***in cycle path!".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Rua_ri


    Hi

    Hope the cyclist that this happened to gets to see this. If any of you know the cyclist involved here please let them know that they can contact me as a witness and that I have the driver's registration number.


    Yesterday evening in Naas I was driving behind a car that had an altercation with a cyclist. The car came out of a junction and completely cut the cyclist off . The cyclist had words with the driver and then the driver tried to use his car as a weapon and drove at the cyclist twice aggressively.

    The cyclist had to mount the footpath to avoid being run over . I hope the cyclist is ok and got home safely.

    I have the registration number of the car and I have contacted the Naas Gardai. I have given my statement to the Gardai and they have all my details. They are awaiting contact from either the driver of the car ( highly unlikely ) or the cyclist before they can proceed with this. So please don't let this slide.

    Rua



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Councillors highlight ‘historically’ dangerous area outside Cork national school | Independent.ie

    So many issues, so many reasons for a proper discussion, yet we'll just plod on, business as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Gobshite tried to pass two of us here yesterday

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.2193401,-6.9912236,3a,75y,266.63h,83.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX6tazJYfT8DbSyqNK_5m-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

    Came flying up outside of us, then had to slam on his brakes at the speed bump/pedestrian crossing which meant we re passed him on the left side as he slowed more than us, we were going straight over the bridge, he was on the wrong side of the road in a position where oncoming traffic couldn't see him, all to save 1 second on his journey.

    In the next 6km we had 3 more dodgy close passes, your head would be melted, at least the remaining 90km was uneventful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    We had one of those in Newcastle village a few weeks ago on a club spin... no male rage/ aggression, just a middle aged incompetent female driver who clearly hadn't a notion what she was doing. Again, luckily no oncoming traffic... it just beggars belief what goes through their minds.

    Meanwhile...

    Driver (20s) dies in Co Cork road crash as two passengers injured; cyclist (60s) seriously hurt in separate incident (msn.com)

    ... gives a very good sense of the chaos out there, almost none of which has anything to do with helmets, hi viz, two-abreast etc... but we still have to share the road with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭LeoD




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,440 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    This one is unbelievable!

    Car was stopped as the driver was carrying 4 people in the back instead of 3 and they discovered that the car's tyres were basically slicks...

    The worst thing however was that the driver had not passed their test/had a driving licence since 1992!!


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-stop-motorist-who-has-been-driving-for-32-years-without-licence/a709967333.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,901 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Shows up the failure of the gardaí to be honest. How can this even happen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    The gardai, tbf, are under resourced, with a virtually non-existent roads-policing section. Rank and file will prioritise what they're told to, and from the top (Govt.) down, even across society generally (media, typical Journal comment section contributor) there's no appetite for prioritising road policing. Instead there's a strong narrative of "hard pressed motorist", "just trying to get to work and earn a living", "businesses will die", "war on cars", "a gazzilion being spent on cycle lanes" etc. etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    We're decades behind other states in using ANPR camera's. And no demand from anyone in authority, seemingly, to introduce them and other tech based enforcement solutions. We don't even have any red light cameras in the State ffs. Fixed speed and red light camera's are in place in other States 30 years plus at this stage!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    I enjoy continually pointing this out on the RSA's Facebook posts which often have Gardai and vehicles wasting their time at stupid publicity stunts like driving simulators in schools, or once, pointing out the inherent dangers in driving on and off a car ferry!

    It's a waste of time though 😡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,901 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    'National Slow Down Day is aimed at reminding drivers of the dangers of speeding.' 😃 🙄




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭JMcL


    This, though you can IMHO add activities that are a waste of Garda time.

    I was on jury duty this week and in the one court I was in there were two guards (including a sergeant) acting as errand boys and sheparding us around. Add to that the guard that was giving testimony who was there for the duration, and multiply this by whatever number of court sittings are going on on any given day and it's no wonder there's a lack of boots on the ground.

    Fair enough, they guard giving evidence has to be there (but for the whole day?) but the other two lads could have their places taken by court staff, notwithstanding of course the need for some sort of security on site in the event that some scrote kicks off.

    It must also be disheartening for them the amount of effort that needs to go into getting a conviction given both what you say (societal "norms" etc.) and just the bar of proof required. It was an eye-opener for me I must say in that what on the face of it seemed fairly cut and dried initially fell for a lack of corroborating evidence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    AGS getting soundly hammered by pretty much all sides for this bollocks




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    They can't get anyting in that tweet right - the two of them aren't in Raheny - that's beside Fairview Park heading towards East Wall



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    One of the less serious issues that they got hammered for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    It's an interesting reflection on our car dependent society and the commentary around collisions involving them. The commentary in the media rarely even hints towards the reckless behaviour we see with so many young drivers that lead to these collisions. But then take the cycling fatalities and serious injuries here, its some how the cyclist that's at fault "I saw one break a red light once" or "sure they're not even insured".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Not sure which thread this came up on previously, but the brain trust were out yesterday.






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭traco


    Is there not regulations that dfine max permissable witdh on a road? I see trucks with wide loads and they require escorts and I believe permits but not sure if agricultural are bound by the same rules. Also not sure as an owner I'd want to be covering any distance with a rubber track on asphalt - can't imagine it does them any good.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I like this response to the above tweet...

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    There is, and they need lead and follow vehicles. AS many of us know over the summer, that simply does not happen and I suspect many do not actually have the appropriate insurance / tax for travelling by road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,901 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Garda Press Office talking about National Slowdown Day on Radio1 yesterday said “six collisions every hour every day last year”. 

    I assume averaging = 52,560 RTCs in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,711 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    The poor 10 year old kid who was killed on Sunday was apparently "involved in a collision" according to the radio news. Like how fast was the kid going? FFS, terrible reporting. He was child pedestrian, run down by a van in a housing estate. Still, at least the Gardai are going to crack down on eBikes and scooters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It was an 'accident' according to the RTE News last night, which is a strange conclusion to come to when there is zero information available to base this on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭at1withmyself



    Tragically, Dylan was announced dead on Wednesday after being in the Hospital a couple of days, maybe it's not a good idea to talk about this incident when we don't know the details.

    RIP Dylan



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