Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Also, it is possibly a tough sell for some EU countries like Greece/Cyprus to watch potentially billions of Eur of EU funding being dumped into growing Turkey's (sorry Turkiye's) already quite developed weapons industry and military (if most will come from there?).

Must be a reasonable probability that Erdogan (like Putin) will turn the fiery rhetoric into reality, and attack one or both in coming years. Hate being such a pessimist, but that seems to be the world we are in at the moment.

Eastern Europe/Baltic states are not the only ones with a troublesome neighbour.

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Apparently last moments

This gets more interesting

@Strumms

The thing is that if funding to Ukraine is cancelled and European backlash to immigration continues, then Ukrainians will end up without a country and without a refuge. I'm not sure there'll be enough Netflix to effectively distract us from the brutal ethnic cleansing that will follow.

And aid to Ukraine is not a happy-clappy altruistic gesture. There's a point to be proved about how far the West is willing to go to defend its interests. If that answer to its enemies is, 'not as far as you', then we're really into a new phase of modern history. Just throw meat into the grinder until western nations start complaining about the cost of ammo.

And if Putin gets away with taking Ukraine, aside from the refugee crisis that will cause, it will trigger even more invasionitis in Putin. And then my Friends, we can be prepared to pay out not only mega bucks, but rivers of blood too.

What can we take from the footage?

It looks like the plane knew a threat was incoming and was deploying Chaff as a countermeasure which didn't work.

There does look like there was another plane hit too that barely started on the Chaff when it was hit.

Putting all this together. It looks like extra terrestrials have declared war on Russian aircraft. Thanks ET. 😎

I agree

"#Russia is not an "acute threat" as our received wisdom would have it--it is a chronic threat, and it will remain so until its imperial drive is broken. Today there is only one task for our leaders: Stop talking about "as long as it takes" and re-learn the basics of warfare."

East Timor maybe?

And there were some fairly brutal occupations of Irish territory under compromise rules...

and transnistria/ moldova looks like it is next for annexation