Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

You get nowhere being nice amaceen…

the Rosie’s must have been shocked at such treatment..

#prayforpaul, hope he makes a full recovery.

It was a clear tactic by Galway, at least 3 times Conroy got involved in afters after conceding a free, and he wasn't the only one. We can call them on it, but it's up to the ref to calm these fouls. Unfortunately, Lane wasn't interested in stopping Galway's BS at all, like look at the comical antics of the goalkeeper in the first half.

We weren't good enough on the day, simple as that. Donie was silly, but we weren't good enough or sharp enough. Galway may be happy with PJ and his brave band of warriors and their antics, I don't really care. He's not got much longer in the job anyway. We have to get up to the levels of last year and higher, in terms of pace and sharpness, and fairly lively too or D2 here we come.

I recall that incident, pure gamesmanship from Niall Morgan won't always work as it requires to play a poor ref.

Missed no point.

Morgan knew what he was doing, went in knees first seeking a reaction and played the poor ref to get tap over free to be over turned to a throw up ball. Vaughan was him and his lack of discipline.

What do ye make of this or is there anything in this at all?

That performance v Dublin was very disappointing.

Despite not playing particularly well in the first half, only being a point down and with improvements expected to be made during the break, the second half was a big letdown.

Possession was given away far too cheaply, far too often. Especially short hand-passes being dropped or not hitting the target. That's very basic stuff for this level of football.

While Diarmuid Murtagh's finishing was top-notch, his defending is very poor. If I was an opposition manager I would encourage anyone in possession near him to take him on as there is a high possiblility you will get past. It happened a number of times yesterday. He also doesn't work remotely hard enough in looking for the ball. Fair play to both Daire Cregg and James Fitzpatrick. They were constantly showing for the ball. Constantly! Ben O'Carroll is the same. But all forwards should be the same. And young Higgins showed much the same appetite to run hard at the defense without the ball, taking defenders away from the Roscommon ball-carrier. There simply has to be more of that selfless running off the ball and support play if this team want to step up to the next level.

The kickout strategy from Roscommon was puzzling. I believe Dublin only had to go long once in the entire match. Conceding possessiong so easily is just not on. Early on, Carroll simply didn't seem confident in pinning his kickout to available players. He improved as the match went on, but I don't know why he was so hesitant earlier. Roscommon lost most of his long kickouts.

Anyway, it's must-win territory next weekend. Here's hoping.

Massive game next weekend. I hope we perform. Any idea on when Harney and other injured players are back?

There are probably several contributing factors, but we're well off where we were last spring. Performance levels seem very pedestrian for the most part, except for a few bursts of action albeit early and late in games when the result is not up for grabs. All 3 games followed similar patterns otlf pedestrian defending, passive, slow attacks, and struggling around the middle on kick outs and breaks.

Be interesting to see how we can right the ship. The whole backroom have to be under pressure at this stage, Davy along with the 2 main coaches. Was the influence of McGowan and McHugh that important last year? At this point, it would seem so.

Yes good point above. We are missing alot of players at the minute. We are having no luck with the injuries.

I don't think we every had the depth to go into the weaker team league game with a second string and expect to win.

The mind boggles at your 'reasoning'.

Let's look at the incident without naming the teams, maybe that will help.

Team A win a can't-miss free with time up. The free will be allowed to be taken and the game will finish. The scores are level. A player from the team about to lose the game goes down on his knees into the grounded player, hoping some idiot from the team about to win will decide that winning doesn't matter and completely over-react and hopefully the free will be changed to a hop-ball. And that's exactly what happened. It worked because a player from the team about to win a crucial game didn't have the discipline required, just like Donal Vaughan.

How anybody can defend Harney's actions that day is beyond words. I have yet to hear ANY Roscommon fan other than you defend him.

Donie Vaughan is still in hiding somewhere in Mayo. It was a rush of blood that he will always regret.

Ultan Harney had a similar rush of blood. Lesser consequences maybe. But hard to fathom what goes through players minds when they do these things. I'm not condoning players dropping like a sack of spuds at small amounts of contact. But they should not be given that opportunity to do so in the first place.

Haven't we been 6-8 starters short; C Murtagh, enda Smith (suspended for Tyrone), Donie (suspended for Dublin), N Daly, 4 Brigids players not available for prep and Tyrone. Then the two players from last year gone travelling (McKeon and can't recall other off top of head.)

Speed and application is directly related to player quality IMHO. Not sure is it justified to debate our organisation - I couldn't fault it.

We can't count Ciaran, hasn't he opted out for the year, and while I haven't heard it confirmed there was a lot of talk of Eddie stepping away too, at least in the short term.

Who from Bridget's is proven that's to come in? Ben?

Final post on this topic as others reading this thread must be bored with us going on about something that happened five years ago.

My point was recalling the incident and the role Morgan played in it. And I have seen similar incidents since in other matches that stronger refs didn't over turn a free for a push and dive.