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PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    I never really noticed that from any of them though I wouldn't be a regular viewer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM



    Correct. Sometimes instead of just sitting there on the edge of his seat smiling at her, I wish he would just say " that is not an answer to the question I asked. Just answer the question, will you". Instead, he was walked over by the media trained Michelle O'Neill, it was more like propaganda tv, complete with the whooping from all her supporters in the chosen audience in the studio.

    Patrick Kielty confirmed yet again last night that RTE is not balanced.

    More than a few were invited I would say ; would have been surprising if Kielty, RTE and Michelle O'Neill had not them there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    Wow! LLS is unwatchable because of where the guests are from?

    Little bit of the ol' xenophobia seeping out?

    Off the top of my head (and discounting last night's show which I haven't seen) among Kielty's most interesting guests have been Mary McAleese, James McLean, Jimmy Nesbitt and Carl Frampton. A boxer, an actor, a footballer and a former president of our country but in your eyes just unwatchable "Nordies"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's only February and already we have the comedy conspiracy theory of the year - that RTE invited 'RA supporters into the audience. 😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    or who any of them were? I think the first one was her that did the N17 cover but other than that not a clue...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think it's refreshing after decades of people from Northern Ireland being demonised for wanting to just be Irish.

    Loved the dig at RTE's maths problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭daheff


    Yup



    It's not representative of the country. 6 northern counties vs 26 in the republic. Vast majority of his guests are his mates from up north. Very little balance because of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What data are you basing this on?

    Have you his guestlist since he began?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    Is the "Yup" an answer to the xenophobia accusation?

    "Vast majority" of his guests are "his mates from up North" ... absolute rubbish! Back that up with some figures.

    "Very little balance" What does that even mean? Are you talking about political balance? Balance in social background?

    Carl Frampton and Mary McAleese are worlds apart regarding their background and their life experiences.

    Just "Nordies" to you though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,222 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    It should be called the Late Republican Show at this stage. If it was balanced you would not have a continuous flow of Republicans with subtle propaganda.

    Agreed

    What else would you expect. The show started with a leading Republican, and ended with a guest, Stephen Rea, who was married to Dolours Price, an IRA member. Of course, that was not mentioned on the show. Former IRA bomber Dolours Price was the one who once described how Mr Adams ordered her to ferry captives, including Ms McConville, across the Border to be murdered.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dolours-price-former-ira-terrorist-and-ex-wife-of-actor-stephen-rea-dies-of-suspected-overdose/29022340.html

    No mention of Ms Price though, only praise from Stephen Rea, one of the joint first ministers ( the one who was on the late late Republican show of course) , and snide comments about the DUP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,047 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sorry, I'm just still trying to imagine the Late Late staff working their way through a list of identified 'RA supporters and 'inviting' them on the show. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    Renowned republicans and 'ra supporters such as Tiger's Bay very own Carl Frampton MBE, former Ballymena Young Conquerors flute band member James Nesbitt OBE and former British army officer James Blunt😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Frampton was there as a boxer (the fact he is a Catholic from N. Ireland is irrelevant), Nesbitt was there as an actor and James Blunt was there as a musician. None made political comments like the Republicans did on the Republican Late Show.

    Even on last Friday nights show alone, as pointed out already the show started with a leading Republican ( from an IRA family background back in the day ) and ended with a guest, Stephen Rea, who was married to Dolours Price, an IRA member. Of course, that was not mentioned on the show. Former IRA bomber Dolours Price was the one who once described how Mr Adams ordered her to ferry captives, including Ms McConville, across the Border to be murdered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Stephen Rea was there as an actor in a current high profile Beckett play in Dublin. A stock type of guest for these shows.

    MoN was there as the newly installed First Minister of NI, which like or not, people are interested in. Maybe you aren't but then the LLS is not designed for one person's viewing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Stephen Rea is an actor but still got in praise for O'Neill and a snide comments about the DUP etc. It was not revealed of course that he was married to Dolours Price, an IRA member. Former IRA bomber Dolours Price was the one who once described how Mr Adams ordered her to ferry captives, including Ms McConville, across the Border to be murdered. Rea gave one sided subtle propaganda throughout his interview.

    O'Neill was there as First Minister but did not answer the soft questions she was asked, it was another half hour propaganda piece. Not surprising at this stage.

    If the Republican Late show was balanced, it would have had the other joint first minister on. And someone who could interview properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She didn't give the answers you wanted, but she answered all the questions.

    Why would it need to be mentioned who Rea was married to over 20 years ago? How ridiculous would doing that with every guest be?

    You are losing the plot here.

    Successful people in high profile jobs and positions are key to this type of programme and always have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    She did not answer the questions, she dodged them with well rehearsed replies. See her reply to immigration for example. She says she will "reach out to unionists" but that means - to her - mixing with royalty and then attending pira commemorations saying there was no alternative! Imagine if Kielty had a Loyalist politician on who went to commemorations of loyalist para-militaries and who said there was no alternative to loyalist para-militaries?

    Rea was an actor with obvious IRA sympathies ( not surprising given he was married to former IRA bomber Dolours Price, who was the one who once described how Mr Adams ordered her to ferry captives, including Ms McConville, across the Border to be murdered ). Why did Kiely allow him to give his one sided political piece, without any challenging?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She gave a very reasoned defence of her 'First Minister for All' slogan. The problem for you is that you do not include republicans in 'All' and never did.

    Stephen is himself, there is no onus on him to be what you want him to be, just as there wouldn't be any onus on Carl Frampton or Jimmy Nesbitt to be who I want them to be.

    You don't agree with them, well so what?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Of course the First Minister should be the First Minister for all, and the two joint first ministers should be for all. We just got one First minister, who says she will "reach out to unionists" but that means - to her - mixing with royalty and then attending pira commemorations saying there was no alternative! As I said already, imagine if Kielty had a Loyalist politician on who went to commemorations of loyalist para-militaries and who said there was no alternative to loyalist para-militaries?

    Why so many Northern republicans on the Late late?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That would be as interesting a guest as MoN was because those politicians do exist but would not grace a Dublin TV studio.

    There aren't that may northern republicans on the show, that's a myth of your own paranoia and othering.

    The fact here is, you don't get to dictate who the guests are and as has been pointed out, get to make up shite about 'no balance'. You don't like the show...switch off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    You think Carl Frampton's a catholic?

    Are you really that uninformed?

    Apart from that, what I'm getting from your post is that you think there should be no political comments on the Late Late show.

    Is that the case? Or is it just no political comments that you personally disagree with?

    15 years ago a good friend of former IRA member Martin McGuinness had a very high profile interview on the Late Late. Do you think that he also should not have appeared?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    Good to see that they're watching RTE on the Shankill these days! The fact that you think James Nesbitt is a catholic shows what bollocks you are talking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,975 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Listen up folks.

    It doesn't matter if Nesbitt is a Buddhist, Frampton a Muslim or Rea a Quaker.

    They were all first class guests on the Late Late Show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    All Irish people who have made a name for themselves and who most people would be interested in hearing from.

    Still laughing at RTE staff phoning ‘RA supporters offering free tickets! 😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Actually for tickets for the Late Late show, you have to fill out an application form, before you are chosen by the Republican Late Show. If you are chosen. On the application form you give your name, occupation, social media user name / profile ( FrancieBrady), tell ask you to tell them about yourself, after that they ask you your passion / hobbies, after that they ask you your dream late late show guests, after that they ask you who is your Irish hero etc etc.

    So FrancieBrady, no wonder you, with over 50,000 posts on boards for SF, can join your comrades in the audience on the Republican Late show no bother and whoop and cheer all you like. Kielty has had plenty of guests on giving their Northern Republican slant on politics McLean, McAleese (who once had to apologize for her slur comparing Protestants to Nazis), O'Neill, Rea ( who was who was married to Dolours Price, an IRA member, who was the one who once described how Mr Adams ordered her to ferry captives, including Ms McConville, across the Border to be murdered) etc. I'd be surprised if you were not in the audience already, if not in the green room.

    Gay Byrne would have had a more balanced Late late, no comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir


    This thread, I'm not familiar with you until the past few days, is a light hearted, fun general television thread.

    There are political threads where it may be more appropriate for you to get everything off your chest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Shakyfan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Not really, everything I said about the Late Late show is true, the application process ( I corrected FrancieBrady who thought the Late Late just phoned up a few - no doubt some of the guests were family and friends but I enlightened him about the method used for choosing any other guests), etc etc.



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